感觉渥城房子价格直升， 且卖的很快！-why?

[happysummercanada]

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[PLA]

这一点你错了，上次高科技泡泡爆掉的时候，渥太华房价不降反升。因为政府在那几年大招人，以前几乎每条街上都有北电的办公楼，现在只剩一个了，而空出来的楼基本上是政府接手了，你可以想象政府接手了多少裁下来的人。 而且进了政府，反而是端了铁饭碗，人们愈发地疯狂买房。苦了偶们这些在小公司战战兢兢苦熬，不够年限卖身政府无门的人。
希望这次不要殃及高科技太厉害，不然政府本身已经赤字了，不知道还能不能像上次那样接盘。

not know how many people RIM is hiring , the real data in my department (hired around 100)
(1) almost 50-60 IT people gave up their job in It and got into gov job, salary from 80,000+ reduced to 55000-65,000, and very happy
(2) recently senior IT"s from NT are applying junior IT in gov. (pass interview and wait for 58000 position
(3) several my IT friends in Ottawa ask me how to apply gov job.
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seems not that good as you described. No one want to reduced salary 10,000-20,000 if job market is good as you said.

because Ottawa has a biggest IT job market, it is impossible that the house market is independent from IT market. same reason as manufacture industry in ON., Oil industry in AB. ... the house market in AB is hot when the oil price is high, now, ....

If IT is hot, the house market here will be hot, for sure. I believe price in Kanaka was droped a lot when IT bubb was broken in 2002. SI my guess right?

 

[David89]

这一点你错了，上次高科技泡泡爆掉的时候，渥太华房价不降反升。因为政府在那几年大招人，以前几乎每条街上都有北电的办公楼，现在只剩一个了，而空出来的楼基本上是政府接手了，你可以想象政府接手了多少裁下来的人。 而且进了政府，反而是端了铁饭碗，人们愈发地疯狂买房。苦了偶们这些在小公司战战兢兢苦熬，不够年限卖身政府无门的人。
希望这次不要殃及高科技太厉害，不然政府本身已经赤字了，不知道还能不能像上次那样接盘。

I think the gov needs more new blood; Many gov employees are retiring due to the effect of the demography of baby boomers and the gap created by the previous round of lay-off + freezing in the gov.

 

[hooper]

No doubt that boomers are retiring. But with the 20-40% drop in their RRSP portfolio, I guess some of them may delay their "go-home" dates. Will the Goverment hire people ? Do not know. But the crown corporation, CBC, is cutting 10% employees national wide. It might be indicative of something. If you work in Goverment, you'd better work hard, keep close to your boss, and find some projects that can last for at least 6 months.

 

[SweetBunny]

Many babyboomers will retire and come back as a consultant, and making more money that way... (consultant fee+pension)....... We have quite a few grey-hair consultants who are retirees from the government. Quite a few of my colleagues are eagerly waiting for their retirement time so that they can start their life as a consultant, while earning their pensions......
I donot think the government will recruit a lot for the near future, yet I donot think government will lay off people either. If you are an indeterminate employee, you do not need to worry about your job security at all.
For crown corporations that will be different, they are more flexible in terms of recruiting and letting people go.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[ccc]

价格在上扬，人们在抢房。谁说不是，我就同谁急！

 

[hooper]

I donot think the government will recruit a lot for the near future, yet I donot think government will lay off people either. If you are an indeterminate employee, you do not need to worry about your job security at all.

Hopefully....

 

[FromVancouver]

这一点你错了，上次高科技泡泡爆掉的时候，渥太华房价不降反升。因为政府在那几年大招人，以前几乎每条街上都有北电的办公楼，现在只剩一个了，而空出来的楼基本上是政府接手了，你可以想象政府接手了多少裁下来的人。 而且进了政府，反而是端了铁饭碗，人们愈发地疯狂买房。苦了偶们这些在小公司战战兢兢苦熬，不够年限卖身政府无门的人。
希望这次不要殃及高科技太厉害，不然政府本身已经赤字了，不知道还能不能像上次那样接盘。

I was not in Ottawa iaround 2002, so I was wrong, but i did read a artical in a Ottawa Chinese newspaper, say The house in Kanada had a difficulty during that time.

Anyway, Good news is: Fed-Gov hired 4200, in 2007-08, 4200 in 2008-09, will hire more in 2009-10 fiscal year. taking this chance to get in. Bad news is: salary increase is limited to 1.5% for 3 years (CS group). No money.

Basically, most people in Ottawa are living on the salary/job dependenting on local Canadian economic (Vancouver price is exception, dependent on the worrld, specially depending on China, Taiwang, Hong-gong in certain city). No job security, no one would like buy for self-living, investment or small change to big. If job secure, no one would sell the second home unless move out town, even so, probably still keep for several years.
So, job marketing decide housing marketing, mostly

 

[VNR]

Job losses show recession has reached Ottawa
7,200 lost jobs in February the most in 27 months

By Bert Hill, The Ottawa Citizen March 13, 2009

OTTAWA — The national capital region lost 7,200 jobs in February, the biggest monthly loss in 27 months, as the global recession hit home.

Over the last two months, the Ottawa-Gatineau region has shed 13,000 jobs, wiping out the gains, and more, of the last year.

However, the unemployment rate edged up just 0.1 per cent in February to 4.8 per cent as thousands of people decided not look for work. The number of people reporting they were employed rose a modest 700 to 33,800.

While most other major Canadian cities have experienced significant job losses as the recession moved across the country, the capital region escaped the early impact because of a big and stable public sector and healthy consumer spending. The lone exception was a technology sector that has been feeling the pain of the recession for months.

But the holiday from the recession is now over. In February, the Ottawa-Gatineau region had 1,900 fewer jobs than it had a year earlier.

The job losses last month were heaviest in Ottawa where 5,300 jobs were lost, compared to 1,900 jobs in Gatineau.

Across the country, Statistics Canada said that employment fell by 83,000 in February, bringing total losses since the peak of last October to 295,000. The unemployment rate rose 0.5 per cent.

All of the employment losses in February were in full-time jobs with a loss of 111,000, partially offset by gains in part-time employment.

In February, the largest decline in employment occurred in Ontario (-35,000), followed by Alberta (-24,000) and Quebec (-18,000).

 

[Hainiu]

[FONT=宋体]黑莓机制造商 RIM 获利劲扬26%[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]http://news.creaders.net/breaking/newsViewer.php?nid=384363&id=886858&aid=13[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]黑莓机[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥](BlackBerry)[/FONT][FONT=宋体]的制造商[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]Research in Motion(RIM)2[/FONT][FONT=宋体]日公布第四季财报，获利劲升，超过分析师预期，[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]RIM[/FONT][FONT=宋体]盘后股价大涨[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]21%[/FONT][FONT=宋体]。全球经济衰退声中，对[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]BlackBerry[/FONT][FONT=宋体]手机的需求维持强劲。[/FONT]

[FONT=ˎ̥]RIM[/FONT][FONT=宋体]表示，在[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]2[/FONT][FONT=宋体]月[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]28[/FONT][FONT=宋体]日为止的第四季，该公司获利[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]5[/FONT][FONT=宋体]亿[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]1830[/FONT][FONT=宋体]万美元[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥] ([/FONT][FONT=宋体]台币[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]171[/FONT][FONT=宋体]亿[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]8400[/FONT][FONT=宋体]元[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥])[/FONT][FONT=宋体]，或每股[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]90[/FONT][FONT=宋体]美分，比去年同季增加[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]26%[/FONT][FONT=宋体]。分析师原先的预测是获利每股[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]84[/FONT][FONT=宋体]美分。[/FONT]

[FONT=ˎ̥]RIM[/FONT][FONT=宋体]表示，第四季营收上升[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]84%[/FONT][FONT=宋体]，从去年同季的[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]18[/FONT][FONT=宋体]亿[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]8000[/FONT][FONT=宋体]万美元增加为[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]34[/FONT][FONT=宋体]亿[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]6000[/FONT][FONT=宋体]万美元，也高于分析师预测的[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]34[/FONT][FONT=宋体]亿[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]2000[/FONT][FONT=宋体]万美元。[/FONT]

[FONT=ˎ̥]RIM[/FONT][FONT=宋体]并表示，[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]BlackBerry[/FONT][FONT=宋体]第四季用户增加[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]390[/FONT][FONT=宋体]万，使总用户数达[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]2500[/FONT][FONT=宋体]万。[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]专家表示，上述数据显示美国消费者继续对新世代手机掏腰包：「他们可能不买车，也不买房子了，但这些小东西使他们感觉日子好过一点。」尤其美国总统欧巴马爱用[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]BlackBerry[/FONT][FONT=宋体]，是这款手机有钱也买不到的活广告。[/FONT]

[FONT=ˎ̥]RIM[/FONT][FONT=宋体]运行长巴席里声明表示，「[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]RIM[/FONT][FONT=宋体]的[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]2009[/FONT][FONT=宋体]会计年度是非凡的一年，[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]BlackBerry[/FONT][FONT=宋体]出货五千万支，产生[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]110[/FONT][FONT=宋体]亿美元营收」。[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]巴席里表示，展望[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]2010[/FONT][FONT=宋体]年，「[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]RIM[/FONT][FONT=宋体]市占率和获利率成长的机会还是格外的好」。声明说，首季营收预测在[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]33[/FONT][FONT=宋体]亿到[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]35[/FONT][FONT=宋体]亿美元之间，毛利率预测[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]43%[/FONT][FONT=宋体]到[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]44%[/FONT][FONT=宋体]，用户预测增加[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]370[/FONT][FONT=宋体]万到[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]390[/FONT][FONT=宋体]万。[/FONT]

[FONT=ˎ̥]RIM[/FONT][FONT=宋体]盘后股价大涨[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]10.14[/FONT][FONT=宋体]美元或[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]21%[/FONT][FONT=宋体]，成为每股[/FONT][FONT=ˎ̥]59.23[/FONT][FONT=宋体]美元。[/FONT]

 

[yycivang]

not know how many people RIM is hiring , the real data in my department (hired around 100)
(1) almost 50-60 IT people gave up their job in It and got into gov job, salary from 80,000+ reduced to 55000-65,000, and very happy
(2) recently senior IT"s from NT are applying junior IT in gov. (pass interview and wait for 58000 position
(3) several my IT friends in Ottawa ask me how to apply gov job.
--------
seems not that good as you described. No one want to reduced salary 10,000-20,000 if job market is good as you said.

because Ottawa has a biggest IT job market, it is impossible that the house market is independent from IT market. same reason as manufacture industry in ON., Oil industry in AB. ... the house market in AB is hot when the oil price is high, now, ....

If IT is hot, the house market here will be hot, for sure. I believe price in Kanaka was droped a lot when IT bubb was broken in 2002. SI my guess right?

Thank you for your info, and it makes sense.

 

[FromVancouver]

[FONT=宋体]黑莓机制造商 RIM 获利劲扬26%[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]http://news.creaders.net/breaking/newsViewer.php?nid=384363&id=886858&aid=13[/FONT]

Looks RIM is doing very well. It is an encourage news. But RIM is a global company, its employee are over the world, like Notel. look at RIM employment website, no detailed job posting in America/Canada. Because of uncertain of economic in the furture year, everywhere is cutting budget now. I guess Maybe RIM is take this chance to recruit most outstand IT guy, not regular common level IT persons.


"中国的华为也正在这里设立研发基地，蓄势待发，已经并正在招人"。
From news, it seems happened 2-3 times, IT employee jumped down from HUA-WEI high rise building in Guan-Zou. Also, there is 5% died policy, means every year, last of 5% employees will be required leave company without any leave benifit (No EI), that is in China.
........

 

[sunnygg]

April 3, 2009 : Ottawa spring market off to a good start
Members of the Ottawa Real Estate Board sold 1,162 residential properties in March through the Board’s Multiple Listing Service® system compared with 1,084 in March 2008, an increase of 7.2 per cent. There were 788 sales in February 2009.
Of those sales, 250 were in the condominium property class, while 912 were in the residential property class. The condominium property class includes any property, regardless of style (i.e. detached, semi-detached, apartment, etc.) which is registered as a condominium, as well as properties which are co-operatives, life leases and timeshares. The residential property class includes all other residential properties.
“This is a good beginning to the spring market. Confident buyers are taking advantage of the great opportunities that are available to them right now, such as historically-low interest rates and a good supply of properties for sale,” said Board President Rick Snell. “We’re very fortunate to have a stable economy here in Ottawa, and I think buyers are acting cautiously but feeling positive about our resale housing market this spring,” Snell added.
The average price of residential properties, including condominiums, sold in March in the Ottawa area was $286,888, virtually unchanged over March 2008. The average price for a condominium-class property was $208,936, an increase of 0.6 per cent over March 2008. The average price of a residential-class property was $308,256, a decrease of 1.4 per cent over March 2008. The Board cautions that average price information can be useful in establishing trends over time but should not be used as an indicator that specific properties have increased or decreased in value. The average price is calculated based on the total dollar volume of all properties sold.
The Ottawa Real Estate Board is an industry association of 2,400 sales representatives and brokers in the Ottawa area. Members of the Board are also members of the Canadian Real Estate Association and thus are entitled to use the term REALTOR®. The MLS® system is a member based service, paid for by the REALTOR® members of the Ottawa Real Estate Board. The MLS® mark symbolizes the cooperation among REALTORS® to effect the purchase and sale of real estate through real estate services provided by REALTORS®. MLS® commercial and residential listings are available for viewing on the Board’s internet site at Ottawa Real Estate Board - MLS and on the national websites of The Canadian Real Estate Association at REALTOR.ca - Welcome and ICX.ca - Welcome. Information about listings and open houses is also available in the Board’s weekly newspaper, Ottawa Real Estate Guide, available free at 700 locations across the Ottawa area.

 

[VNR]

Ottawa-Gatineau region loses 6,300 jobs in March


By Bert Hill, The Ottawa CitizenApril 9, 2009 9:02 AM

OTTAWA — The Ottawa-Gatineau job market lost 6,300 more jobs in March as the recession drove unemployment levels to the highest in 20 months.

Statistics Canada said Thursday that the unemployment rate jumped 0.4 per cent to 5.2 per cent in March.

The capital region has now shed 20,600 jobs in four months after avoiding the early stages of a recession that has hit other parts of Canada and the U.S. much harder.

The biggest job losses prior to this month were in the retail sector, hit hard by falling consumer confidence and the lingering effect of the OC Transpo strike. The technology sector has also lost jobs heavily as a result of the recession and deep layoffs at insolvent Nortel Networks.

All the job losses in March were in Ottawa, where the unemployment rate rose
0.3 per centage points to 4.9 per cent. In Gatineau, the rate rose 0.4 percentage points to 6.0 per cent as a rising number of people who lost jobs earlier started searching for work.

The capital region unemployment rate trails far behind the national level of 8.0 per cent in March because many people who have lost jobs are not actively seeking new work yet, including 4,200 of the people who lost jobs in March.

Across the country, Statistics Canada said employment declined by 61,000 in March,
all in full-time work. This decrease pushed the unemployment rate up 0.3 percentage points to 8.0 per cent, the highest rate in seven years.

Since peaking in October 2008, employment has fallen each month, with net losses totalling 357,000, down 2.1 per cent. In percentage terms, this is the largest decline over a five-month period since the 1982 recession.


Losses in March were spread across a number of industries, most notably in manufacturing, finance, insurance, real estate and leasing, construction;
and natural resources. These losses were only partially offset by gains in
“other services” and business, building and other support services.

I was not in Ottawa iaround 2002, so I was wrong, but i did read a artical in a Ottawa Chinese newspaper, say The house in Kanada had a difficulty during that time.

Anyway, Good news is: Fed-Gov hired 4200, in 2007-08, 4200 in 2008-09, will hire more in 2009-10 fiscal year. taking this chance to get in. Bad news is: salary increase is limited to 1.5% for 3 years (CS group). No money.

Basically, most people in Ottawa are living on the salary/job dependenting on local Canadian economic (Vancouver price is exception, dependent on the worrld, specially depending on China, Taiwang, Hong-gong in certain city). No job security, no one would like buy for self-living, investment or small change to big. If job secure, no one would sell the second home unless move out town, even so, probably still keep for several years.
So, job marketing decide housing marketing, mostly

 

[yycivang]

Ottawa-Gatineau region loses 6,300 jobs in March


By Bert Hill, The Ottawa CitizenApril 9, 2009 9:02 AM

OTTAWA — The Ottawa-Gatineau job market lost 6,300 more jobs in March as the recession drove unemployment levels to the highest in 20 months.

Contractors working for the government, which a lot of people do in Ottawa, do not show on the book when lose jobs. As everyone knows, the government is cutting the budget. Who will go, contractors. When they do not have the jobs, the unemployeement rate do not include them.