提醒丰田车主注意

[牛爸2009]

97年同样型号的美国车，根本卖不到2K，我一朋友2000年的TAURUS，要价1K,卖来卖去，3个月都没人要，到最后，白送给一小修车行给收了，车行老板说，要不是看中了他大半箱汽油，他也不会收。大妈的97年的日本CAMRY车能卖5K, 算是黑了点。大妈她也算是得了日本车的好处了，现在翻脸又骂日本车，这大妈也真那个了。

我猜其卖车的时候是不会少说日本车的好话的。

 

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我猜其卖车的时候是不会少说日本车的好话的。

其人可恶

 

[牛爸2009]

其人可恶

我真希望以上只是笑话。。没有这么搞笑的人吧？为了自己的车好脱手就倒戈来倒戈去 ？？

 

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小人之心！

呵呵，还是mm聪明！

那个售车贴子，只不过是帮单位的一个老外同事转发的售车广告而已。他说他知道不少中国人喜欢日本车而他又不懂中文，所以，让我帮忙将其发到中文社区论坛，并将它的售车广告email给我。我帮他发了之后，将贴子连接email给他，让他知道我给他办了。那个广告中一个中文没有，就是因为他不懂中文。如果有哪个cfc的网友买了那个车，会知道我所言不虚。

CFC的华人中卑劣无耻小人不少，上面那些傻蛋和脑残们，只会以小人之心度君子之腹，这没什么可奇怪的，是其本性决定的。

本人虽然不抵制日货，但对抵制日货之人，由衷的尊敬。

 

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视频：ABC News: What to do if your car accelerates Out of Control （2009.11.02）

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=8980024

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Toyota Denied Sudden Acceleration Problem For More Than 5 Years


by Brett Emison
November 06, 2009 9:00 AM

It appears that Toyota has denied its sudden acceleration problem for more than 5 years. Toyota's recall for floor mat problems is not the end of the story and the company needs to do more to protect its customers and the motoring public.

In March 2004, the Center For Auto Safety reported about sudden acceleration problems in 2002-03 Toyota Camrys and Solaras and the 2002-03 Lexus ES 300.

WASHINGTON -- A relatively new technology, the electronic throttle, is a leading suspect in a wave of claims that some vehicles unexpectedly accelerate out of control. Government investigators are looking at 2002-03 Toyota Camrys and Solaras and Lexus ES 300s to determine if they are defective. More than a million cars are in service. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has begun a preliminary investigation of the latest claims. It is gathering about 37 complaints of sudden acceleration by owners of the Toyota and Lexus cars. The complaints include 30 reports of crashes. They involved injuries to five people; one of them was seriously hurt.​

According to AutoSafety.org, by the year 2000, there had been more than 22,600 reported complaints of sudden acceleration.

More than five years ago, Toyota and NHTSA identified the electronic throttle as the most likely source of the sudden acceleration defect. However, Toyota continued -- and continues today -- to dismiss concerns about its throttle control system and has looked only at the floor mat issue.


Four years later -- in June 2008 -- the Detroit Free Press and the Motor Authority reported that Toyota had dismissed additional customer complaints that the popular Toyota Tacoma pickup truck had been experiencing the same sudden acceleration issue as other Toyota and Lexus vehicles.

Now, Toyota's Tacoma pickup is receiving complaints in the U.S. because of the same unintended acceleration defect.A total of 432 customers have reported unintended or sudden acceleration [problems] in their vehicles, resulting in 51 crashes and 12 injuries. Toyota has responded by stating that its Tacoma is not defective and that many reports were "inspired by publicity," reports the Detroit Free Press.​

In 2008 -- like in 2004 -- Toyota refused to take the sudden acceleration issue seriously. Instead of fixing the known problem in its vehicles, Toyota publicly accused its own customers of trying to cash in on Toyota's negative publicity.

By October 2009, Toyota was forced to finally acknowledge sudden acceleration problems in the following vehicles:

• 2007-2010 Toyota Camry
• 2005-2010 Toyota Avalon
• 2004-2009 Toyota Prius
• 2005-2010 Toyota Tacoma
• 2007-2010 Toyota Tundra
• 2007-2010 Lexus ES350
• 2006-2010 Lexus IS250
• 2006-2010 Lexus IS 350

In October 2009, Toyota Motor Corp. President Akio Toyoda, was forced to publicly apologize for the tragic death of an American family who were killed when their Toyota vehicle suddenly accelerated out of control. This tragedy was recorded by 911 as the passengers desperately tried to slow or stop their out of control Toyota vehicle.


As the Detroit Free Press reported:

TOKYO — Toyota’s president said it was “extremely regrettable” an American family died in a crash in which a floor mat in one of the Japanese automaker’s vehicles is suspected as the cause.​

"Four precious lives have been lost," Toyota Motor Corp. President Akio Toyoda said Friday. "I offer my deepest condolences."​

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That crash killed California Highway Patrol Officer Mark Saylor, 45 — who was driving a Lexus, a Toyota luxury model — and three family members on State Route 125 outside San Diego.The vehicle was traveling at more than 120 mph when it launched off an embankment, rolled several times and burst into flames.​

Despite more than 5 years of documented sudden acceleration problems in Toyota and Lexus vehicles and the tragic death of a family of four caught on tape, Toyota still has refused to accept any responsibility or acknowledge any defect:

Toyoda said the company was still deciding what action it would take and did not acknowledge any vehicle problem during his appearance at the Japan National Press Club.He apologized for any worries customers may have. “I feel sorry that people who are driving Toyota and Lexus cars believing in their safety are now feeling uncertainties,” he said.​

Toyota has ignored customer reports of the sudden acceleration problem for more than 5 years. Despite this growing safety concern, Toyota announced today, November 6, 2009, a third-quarter profit of nearly $250 million. In the last 90 days -- while its cars were running out of control -- Toyota made a profit of nearly $3 miller per day. Toyota also increased its sales projection to more than 7 million vehicles for this year.

Langdon & Emison is aware of more than 2100 reported instances of Toyota sudden acceleration. Instead of listening to its customers and fixing the extremely dangerous sudden acceleration problem -- a problem Toyota has known about for more than 5 years -- Toyota is raking in money and placing even more dangerous cars and trucks on American roads. Toyota needs to take these complaints seriously and fix the millions of dangerous vehicles on our streets and highways.
You can learn more by reading these previous reports on Toyota's sudden acceleration problem:

"Inaccurate and Misleading" Statements On Toyota Sudden Acceleration Problem (November 05, 2009)

Toyota Sudden Acceleration: Case Is Not Closed (November 04, 2009 )

Safety Group Responds To Toyota On Sudden Acceleration Defect (November 03, 2009 )

Toyota Has More Troubles Than Just Sudden Acceleration (October 28, 2009 )

 

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Top Safety Picks 2010

To determine crashworthiness — how well a vehicle protects its occupants in a crash — the Institute rates vehicles good, acceptable, marginal, or poor based on performance in high-speed front and side crash tests, a rollover test, plus evaluations of seat/head restraints for protection against neck injuries in rear impacts. To earn Top Safety Pick for 2010 a vehicle must have good ratings in all four Institute tests. In addition, the winning vehicles must offer electronic stability control. See past winners

 

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Toyota Recalls 3.8M Vehicles on Pedal Hazard

The models involved in this previously-disclosed recall are:
2007 to 2010 Camry,
2005 to 2010 Avalon,
2004 to 2009 Prius,
2005 to 2010 Tacoma,
2007 to 2010 Tundra,
2007 to 2010 Lexus ES350,
2006 to 2010 IS250 and
2006 to 2010 IS 350.

 

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Toyota Recalls 3.8M Vehicles on Pedal Hazard

The models involved in this previously-disclosed recall are:
2007 to 2010 Camry,
2005 to 2010 Avalon,
2004 to 2009 Prius,
2005 to 2010 Tacoma,
2007 to 2010 Tundra,
2007 to 2010 Lexus ES350,
2006 to 2010 IS250 and
2006 to 2010 IS 350.

差不多囊括了全部，只省考肉拉、Venza、Matrix、Yaris和ＳＵＶ了。

 

[奇而锐]

抬杠开始了。

本人的希望是大家都开日本安全的“吸能车”，俺开美国危险的“坦克”车。


另外提请大家注意一个高速生存秘诀：如果开车时避免不了要撞车了，要撞你周围能找到的日本“吸能”软壳车。

哥们,您太搞笑了。

 

[奇而锐]

美国车被淘汰不单指是工会。跟工艺也有很大关系。你看美国车现在降的这么便宜，还不一样没人买？


我家日本车和美国车也都有。我的亲身体会是：

美国车外观还行内饰粗制滥造，transmission脆弱（福特的taurus和contour系列出名的波箱烂），工艺落后，二手车根本卖不价钱，老爱坏。

俺就买的美国车，通用的，安全性和操控性都不错，也不觉得耗油呀（和原来的日车相比）总之，感觉不错、心理也塌实些。

 

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俺就买的美国车，通用的，安全性和操控性都不错，也不觉得耗油呀（和原来的日车相比）总之，感觉不错、心理也塌实些。

恕我直言，如果你这辆通用车不比你原来的日本车(发动机2.5L以下）油耗高，那这绝对不是一辆好的通用车。

开美国车就得开大马力的（min 3.2-4.7L plus)。

 

[奇而锐]

口口声声说美国车重？美国车安全？

这车的重量是怎么算的？用美国的大型SUV和日本的最小型的轿车比较，得出的结论当然是美国车重。但你要是反过来，用日本的大型SUV和美国的小型轿车比较，你就会得出相反的结论，即：日本车重。所以，比较要同级别比较，要同档次同类型的车互相比较，才有意义。否则，就是拿苹果和梨比，牛头不对马嘴，结论毫无意义。。。。

大家有兴趣可以看看最常见的日本车和最常见的美国同档次车的重量比较，你就会发现，日本车其实比同类型同档次的美国车重。比如，在普通家庭用轿车这一档次里，丰田的佳美(TOYOTA CAMRY)就比福特的套拉斯（FORD TAURUS)要重的多。可以到丰田和福特的网页上看看，就很明白了。在日本车进军北美之前，TAURUS是北美家庭车多年的销量冠军，但被后来的CAMRY击败后，再也无力和日本车竞争。现在多年的销量冠军是CAMRY。可以说这两款车是相同档次，相同目标顾客的竞争对手，所以他们之间的比较才有意义。和这两款车互相竞争的同档次同类型的车还有本田的雅阁（HONDA ACCORD),　ACCORD 也比 TAURUS 重。这些资料网站上都有，大家可以自己去看看，就明白了。

至于说美国车比日本车安全，更是无稽之谈。安全性是同样不能拿大车和小车这样乱比较的。要拿同类型同档次的车比较才有意义。到美国告诉公路安全局的统计资料上看看就知道了，各个类型和档次的车里面，最不安全的车几乎都是美国产的车：死亡率最高的车几乎都是美国车。这是美国人自己的部门作出的统计，应该是很客观的。但据很多粪青们分析解释说，该部门估计是受了小日本的贿赂了，呵呵。

日本作为美国二战的敌对国，汽车能打败美国，靠的是真正的质量。没有质量，这一切都是不可想象的。至于几个连基本的常识都没有的华人在这里空发议论，是没有什么意义的。

俺亲眼看到的一场车祸是，Honda Accord 自己追尾撞上了美国福特Escape, 开美国车的人下来看看，问撞车人几句话，没什么问题就上车开走了。而Accord 就爬在那啦。

另外，我朋友的一辆Accord 也是追尾撞上了一辆沃尔沃，结果是沃尔沃没事就开走了，朋友的车散热器倾斜后移，挤压发动机，不能打火。这辆Accord 后来报废了。相同的例子朋友们肯定也见过。

看你好象挺专业的，旁征博引一大堆。能不能先解释一下这两个例子。你该不会说，这两个例子超出你思考范围吧。 另外，质量好不等于安全性好，这也是一个常识。

 

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恕我直言，如果你这辆通用车不比你原来的日本车(发动机2.5L以下）油耗高，那这绝对不是一辆好的通用车。

开美国车就得开大马力的（min 3.2-4.7L plus)。

3.4.

 

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3.4.

六缸。很好的车了。羡慕一把。