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2.with a majority of 72% supporting Trudeau's stance not to intervene in the case of Meng in order to secure their release, according to a poll by Canada's non-profit Angus Reid Institute.
今天和同事聊天, 他认为政府不能干涉, 法官该咋判就咋判, 至于两个麦克, 政府自己去想办法。
白求恩打下的底子全没了, 多数普通加拿大人对中国也没了信任。
美加可以抵制奥运, 会允许运动员以个人名义参加, 结果是中国名声受害多一些。
今天和同事聊天, 他认为政府不能干涉, 法官该咋判就咋判, 至于两个麦克, 政府自己去想办法。
白求恩打下的底子全没了, 多数普通加拿大人对中国也没了信任。
美加可以抵制奥运, 会允许运动员以个人名义参加, 结果是中国名声受害多一些。
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No deception in Meng Wanzhou’s actions, defence says
Meng Wanzhou’s defence team will spend the next three days explaining how her actions did not place HSBC at risk
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Defence urges judge not be a 'rubber stamp' in Meng Wanzhou extradition case
Huawei executive's lawyers claim Crown hasn't proven any link between Meng and alleged loss to bankJason Proctor · CBC News · Posted: Aug 13, 2021 4:24 PM PT | Last Updated: 2 hours ago
A lawyer for Meng Wanzhou says the B.C. Supreme Court judge considering a U.S. request to render the Huawei executive to New York to face fraud charges shouldn't act as a "rubber stamp" for extradition.
Eric Gottardi cited the words of former Supreme Court of Canada chief justice Beverley McLachlin Friday as he laid out the defence's arguments during the final leg of Meng's extradition proceedings.
In a 2006 decision, McLachlin wrote that an extradition "judge must act as a judge, not a rubber stamp" when considering the facts and law in cases like Meng's.
Gottardi told B.C. Supreme Court Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes that while an extradition hearing is not a trial, she does have the right to perform a "limited weighing" of the evidence before her — which he claimed was "manifestly unreliable."
"The extradition judge must have this power as a matter of fundamental justice," he said.
"Otherwise the extradition risks becoming the rubber stamp the chief justice warned us about and it would undermine the basic demands of justice."
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昨天我看到有人说，加拿大的法官和律师都非常智慧，专业，耐心。此案之所以“较劲”了这么长的时间，是因为加拿大民主，公正，透明的司法制度给了嫌疑人，吧啦吧啦。昨天没时间，现在有空吐一下。
首先，孟晚舟是谁？中国国宝级大公司创始人的大公主。她的公司跟伊朗做的国家级的大生意。一般人你有这种机会吗？你想撬动几个国家来较力，你行吗？所以这不是普通人的游戏。就算公正，但是跟你沾不上。
其次，因为孟晚舟有钱，才能撑得起这么大的官司，才能打得起这种耗时耗力耗钱的拉锯战。前面帖子我提到的苏斌就是反例。苏斌没有钱，案子都溅不起水花，乖乖被加拿大引渡到美国。如果换了你，没钱，苏斌的结果就是你的结果，甚至更差。
再次，孟晚舟被抓的根据是美国和加拿大之间的引渡条约。两个国家的私法不是国际法，它不应该用来在全世界抓人。中国公民孟晚舟无论在中国的香港干了什么，除了中国自己，其它国家管不了，也不该管，但是美国它要管。美国是世界老大，仗着美元霸权，它的长臂管辖延伸到世界每个角落。这就是强权政治。谈什么公正民主完全是瞎扯。
三次，加拿大法官把孟晚舟律师辛辛苦苦弄到的，完全能够证明是美国政府诬告孟晚舟的铁证丢在一边。理由是不支持孟晚舟。全世界有一般正常思维的人都能看到这里的扭曲。这些赤裸裸的荒谬与司法公正不沾边。
先说这么多。
首先，孟晚舟是谁？中国国宝级大公司创始人的大公主。她的公司跟伊朗做的国家级的大生意。一般人你有这种机会吗？你想撬动几个国家来较力，你行吗？所以这不是普通人的游戏。就算公正，但是跟你沾不上。
其次，因为孟晚舟有钱，才能撑得起这么大的官司，才能打得起这种耗时耗力耗钱的拉锯战。前面帖子我提到的苏斌就是反例。苏斌没有钱，案子都溅不起水花，乖乖被加拿大引渡到美国。如果换了你，没钱，苏斌的结果就是你的结果，甚至更差。
再次，孟晚舟被抓的根据是美国和加拿大之间的引渡条约。两个国家的私法不是国际法，它不应该用来在全世界抓人。中国公民孟晚舟无论在中国的香港干了什么，除了中国自己，其它国家管不了，也不该管，但是美国它要管。美国是世界老大，仗着美元霸权，它的长臂管辖延伸到世界每个角落。这就是强权政治。谈什么公正民主完全是瞎扯。
三次，加拿大法官把孟晚舟律师辛辛苦苦弄到的，完全能够证明是美国政府诬告孟晚舟的铁证丢在一边。理由是不支持孟晚舟。全世界有一般正常思维的人都能看到这里的扭曲。这些赤裸裸的荒谬与司法公正不沾边。
先说这么多。
最后编辑:
China, Canada, and the USA make a deal under the table:
A). CDN court rules the extradition of Meng, and Meng won't appeal. Then, China expels the sentenced Mike out of China.
B). US declares that DOJ and FBI come to Canada, and DOJ accepts Meng's regret of wrongdoing on the Irian export. The DOJ also states that it has repatriated Meng back to China on humanitarian grounds and her regret. ( A and B timing could be discussing)
C). Meng denies ever admitting any wrongdoing and any regret when she is in China.
D). China releases another Mike quietly right after Meng backs to China, but Mike has to be living in the CDN Beijing embassy for 1-3 months. Then China claims the release of Mike based on his health and humanitarian.
E). China Highest Court rejects the death sentence of the Canadian drug trafficker, after some time, the sentence back to 15 years quietly.
Technology develops so fast. I don't think the US needs Meng anymore in another 2 years if she appeals. The US has already reached the goal of containing Huawei 5g and the depressing and slowing China's technology developments are well underway. Huawei lost a CFO ( she won't be back to that job). and has been contained expanding over the developed countries. Two Canadians lost freedom for approx. 3 years. Both CN and CDN are losers. The US is the sole winner in this fiasco. No one gives dam to that drug trafficker.
This could be the best scenario I can guess. It is not over until it is over.
Have fun CFCers.
PS: the US may require China to buy more treasuries as a condition of release, but that will be between the US and China--a top secrete no one will know. Any country that deals with the US have to give in some, at least 60%. There is no such thing as called win-win when dealing with the US.
A). CDN court rules the extradition of Meng, and Meng won't appeal. Then, China expels the sentenced Mike out of China.
B). US declares that DOJ and FBI come to Canada, and DOJ accepts Meng's regret of wrongdoing on the Irian export. The DOJ also states that it has repatriated Meng back to China on humanitarian grounds and her regret. ( A and B timing could be discussing)
C). Meng denies ever admitting any wrongdoing and any regret when she is in China.
D). China releases another Mike quietly right after Meng backs to China, but Mike has to be living in the CDN Beijing embassy for 1-3 months. Then China claims the release of Mike based on his health and humanitarian.
E). China Highest Court rejects the death sentence of the Canadian drug trafficker, after some time, the sentence back to 15 years quietly.
Technology develops so fast. I don't think the US needs Meng anymore in another 2 years if she appeals. The US has already reached the goal of containing Huawei 5g and the depressing and slowing China's technology developments are well underway. Huawei lost a CFO ( she won't be back to that job). and has been contained expanding over the developed countries. Two Canadians lost freedom for approx. 3 years. Both CN and CDN are losers. The US is the sole winner in this fiasco. No one gives dam to that drug trafficker.
This could be the best scenario I can guess. It is not over until it is over.
Have fun CFCers.
PS: the US may require China to buy more treasuries as a condition of release, but that will be between the US and China--a top secrete no one will know. Any country that deals with the US have to give in some, at least 60%. There is no such thing as called win-win when dealing with the US.
