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Spurred by tech titan Terry Matthews, residents mull Kanata golf club purchase to halt development

Spurred on by an appeal from billionaire tech titan Terry Matthews, Kanata residents are stepping up with offers to donate funds to save the Kanata Golf and Country Club from being razed for a new residential development, the local councillor says.

More than 400 people attended a community meeting Monday night at the Brookstreet Hotel to talk about golf course owner ClubLink’s controversial plan to redevelop the 71-hectare site. ClubLink is proposing to team up with local developers Minto Communities and Richcraft Homes to tear up the course and replace it with roads, parks, ponds and 1,500 homes divided among single-detached houses, townhouses and apartments.

ClubLink senior vice-president of investments Robert Visentin told OBJ earlier this month the golf course industry has been in decline for the past decade and the firm needs to look at new ways of making the property more financially viable.

But Kanata North Coun. Jenna Sudds, who organized Monday night’s meeting, said the community doesn’t want to see all that greenspace disappear. She said Matthews, best known as the co-founder of telecom giant Mitel, told residents at the meeting he’d be willing to make a significant contribution to any bid to buy the course from ClubLink if other residents agreed to put money toward the cause as well.

Sudds said Wednesday she’d already heard from a number of constituents who told her they’d be happy to chip in to save the course from being bulldozed.

“I think as a community, we need to look at all avenues that are possible,” she said. “For the community, it was certainly a call to action. We need to work together to do whatever we can to save this greenspace.”

Barbara Ramsay, chair of the Kanata Greenspace Protection Coalition, which opposes ClubLink’s plans, said Matthews’ offer is intriguing.

“That’s a large idea that he’s talking (about), but it’s an idea that is certainly worth vetting,” she said, adding she too has been approached by residents asking if her group would take the lead in putting together such a proposal along with the tech entrepreneur.

Opponents of ClubLink’s redevelopment plans say they have the potential to negatively affect their property values, lead to more traffic congestion in the Kanata Lakes and Beaverbrook communities and put more strain on public infrastructure such as roads and schools.

They also say the proposal violates a legal agreement that dates back almost 40 years.

Sudds, Ramsay and others point to a 1981 agreement between the former city of Kanata and the course’s owner at the time that requires 40 per cent of the Kanata Lakes property to be maintained as green space, including the golf course, and gives the city the right to take over the land at no cost if the owners no longer want to operate the course and cannot find another operator or buyer who wants to maintain it.

ClubLink bought the golf course in 1996; the City of Ottawa took over all legal agreements signed by all former municipalities in the former region of Ottawa-Carleton, including Kanata, when they were amalgamated in 2001.

The city filed an application last week asking Ontario’s Superior Court of Justice to rule on whether the so-called 40 per cent agreement is still valid. Sudds said Wednesday the city has asked the court to expedite the application in the hope of having a hearing by Dec. 13.

ClubLink officials say they believe the agreement is invalid.

“We wouldn’t have filed an application and gone through the work of doing all these reports if we thought it was a valid agreement,” Valentin said recently.

Meanwhile, the clock is ticking on ClubLink’s development application with the city, which was filed in early October. Under provincial law, the city has 120 days – meaning until Feb. 5 – to make a decision on whether to green-light the proposal.

Sudds and others worry the court hearing process won’t be concluded by the time the February deadline arrives, putting the city in a quandary.

“There is literally nothing that we can do as a city to stop the planning (process),” she said. “We’re doing everything we can on the legal side to try to get this dealt with prior to the 120 days expiring. Obviously, it’s distressing. Until we hear back from the court, it’s hard for us to be able to assess how realistic these timelines are. But I do know that we’ve got an incredible legal team working on our side, and I know that they’ll provide good advice either way.”

The Kanata Greenspace Protection Coalition is hosting a public meeting next Tuesday evening at Earl of March Secondary School to discuss how the community can support the city’s legal fight.

“It is the right thing to do – as far as we’re concerned, the only thing to do – to show the respect to the 40 per cent agreement that it deserves,” Ramsay said.
 
再来看看CLUBLINK/MINTO/RICHCRAFT 新GOLF盘最“旗舰”,最”豪华“的44尺豪宅是啥样
44尺中其实包括了5尺左右的GARAGE SETBACK,实用面积肯定低于RR 最低一档的42尺。属于正常SINGLE39尺,40尺一档。改进的是车库大了一些。
另外对数字启用也太粗糙, 44华人或亚裔买家会咋想呢?

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KNL一直有44啊,而且garage setback在RR也有

不过最大44是相当cheap了,而且90尺的depth也是醉了
 
KNL一直有44啊,而且garage setback在RR也有

不过最大44是相当cheap了,而且90尺的depth也是醉了
去掉前drive way(single car),后院只有不到一辆车的长度。
 
KNL一直有44啊,而且garage setback在RR也有

不过最大44是相当cheap了,而且90尺的depth也是醉了
我不知道你说得knl是未来的几期中有44尺房。

就目前卡北10年内盖成的几个新区。
Ke: 35, 42, 47, 52, 60
New heritage hill: 35, 50
RR 1,2,3: 42, 47, 52 (极少数35尺在最后收尾临时加的)

就是说clublink/minto/richcraft在新golf盘的最豪的(以后放corner lot)的44尺(含5尺garage setback),定价在850-900k, 实际居住质量就比上列三盘中35尺高而已。钱爱咋花就咋花了,想当冲头,韭菜的可自我报名,还真没被人拿枪顶脑门去买啊。

RR, KE, new HH没有这中加5尺garage set back 的房。
 
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去掉前drive way(single car),后院只有不到一辆车的长度。
可以省掉买电视的钱了,后院对面人家看什么节目,也可以跟着一起看。
 
去掉前drive way(single car),后院只有不到一辆车的长度。

后院setback至少六米,是说房子的后沿离property line至少六米

driveway包括两部分,一部分在3.7米的setback上,另一部分的实际owner是city,记得5米左右的样子
 
我不知道你说得knl是未来的几期中有44尺房。

就目前卡北10年内盖成的几个新区。
Ke: 35, 42, 47, 52, 60
New heritage hill: 35, 50
RR 1,2,3: 42, 47, 52 (极少数35尺在最后收尾临时加的)

就是说clublink/minto/richcraft在新golf盘的最豪的(以后放corner lot)的44尺(含5尺garage setback),定价在850-900k, 实际居住质量就比上列三盘中35尺高而已。钱爱咋花就咋花了,想当冲头,韭菜的可自我报名,还真没被人拿枪顶脑门去买啊。

RR, KE, new HH没有这中加5尺garage set back 的房。

KE是35/44/50/60,KNL789是31/35/44/50

你的房子不能建在property边缘上,四面都要有setback。前面要3.7米,后面至少6米,左侧右侧也要留(1.2+0.6),否则房子就连在一起了

没看到5尺啊
 
KE是35/44/50/60,KNL789是31/35/44/50

你的房子不能建在property边缘上,四面都要有setback。前面要3.7米,后面至少6米,左侧右侧也要留(1.2+0.6),否则房子就连在一起了

没看到5尺啊

KE的single 是5档,35, 42, 47, 52,60应该没记错.

Clublink/minto/richcraft 大豪44尺龙头户型的平面图在前一页已经贴出来了,车库和主体结构缩进部分很清楚,是从他们宣传材料中来的。

我之前说过如果clublink 赢了,按时间轴线,它的时间点很好,正好在新的一年高中排名推出后卖房。我之前掐算eom大概率会夺得首都地区状元。他们不愁房子卖。到时还是会有一大批冲头和韭菜冲进这个盘的。

我可以另开一个赌局,各高中当新的一年的状元的概率和赔率基本就位。:)
 
KE是35/44/50/60,KNL789是31/35/44/50

你的房子不能建在property边缘上,四面都要有setback。前面要3.7米,后面至少6米,左侧右侧也要留(1.2+0.6),否则房子就连在一起了

没看到5尺啊
setbacks看zoning by law里的规范.. KNL P9想从R3改到R4,理由是和Riverside South一样,被居民驳回了。。R4比R3挤不少..

现在你们讨论的是O1A,离Residential还距离遥远,别跟热老师一起炸毛:(
 
后院setback至少六米,是说房子的后沿离property line至少六米

driveway包括两部分,一部分在3.7米的setback上,另一部分的实际owner是city,记得5米左右的样子
六米是20尺,前院如果是3.7+5米=8.7米=28尺。lot 90尺,前后院48尺,房屋宽44尺,进深42尺?那得多小阿:p
 
六米是20尺,前院如果是3.7+5米=8.7米=28尺。lot 90尺,前后院48尺,房屋宽44尺,进深42尺?那得多小阿:p

City right of way不计入lot size,计入16/18/20 米的路宽里面
 
City right of way不计入lot size,计入16/18/20 米的路宽里面
你是对的。但这个44尺的房子还是太小了。估计也就2000尺面积。
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setbacks看zoning by law里的规范.. KNL P9想从R3改到R4,理由是和Riverside South一样,被居民驳回了。。R4比R3挤不少..

现在你们讨论的是O1A,离Residential还距离遥远,别跟热老师一起炸毛:(
还炸毛呢?

咱掐指界行规是公正客观。掐算出不好运程的,坚决不能说好运程。

前一段时间有人问我说这楼盘是高端住宅,我一掐根本不是这么回事,我掐出的是这新golf盘是含有透支咱卡屯人民多年辛勤耕耘后积累的福祉的“高价”楼盘。:cool:

有人问我那这是高尚楼盘喽,我一掐,根本不是,没看到高尚,水晶球看到的兵营“高楼”呀。:eek:
 
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