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Traveling long distance EV

5 lessons for traveling on a long road trip with an electric vehicle​

January 9, 2020 by Colin Chan
This story is written by Colin Chan, Manager of Energy, Facilities and Campus Development at BCIT.

BCIT-Tips for traveling long distance with an EV
BCIT Sustainability Manager David Pereira (left) and I traveled on an electric vehicle from Burnaby, British Columbia to Spokane, Washington.
At the end of October, BCIT Sustainability Manager David Pereira and I got to travel down to the Association for Advancement of Sustainability in Higher Education (ASHE) Conference in Spokane, Washington. It was a great conference to connect with fellow post-secondary institutes across the US and Canada and to learn from their sustainability initiatives.
This year, the BCIT North Campus Infrastructure Project was shortlisted as a runner up for a Campus Sustainability Achievement Award out of over 350 applicants.
Compared to flying, driving an electric vehicle (EV) has 80% lower greenhouse gas emissions. So to reduce our travel carbon emissions, we opted to take a Chevy Bolt (Bolt), one of our new electric fleet vehicles from BCIT Facilities and Campus Development. As this was the first long-trip voyage for the Bolt, we were keen to share our EV learning from the journey.

A recap of our long road trip with an EV

The first thing we considered when planning out our trip was charging the vehicle. In a gasoline car, you assume there will be gas stations all over the place, and hence don’t need to do much pre-planning. However with electric vehicles, there are (at least currently) a limited number of charging stations, so you’ll need to plan that out for your route. Plugshare is a great website that layers user-submitted charging stations over Google Maps. It has a trip-planning feature that allows you to enter in your vehicle, your start point and destination, and will map out all the chargers along your route with the range of your vehicle’s battery.
BCIT-Tips for traveling long distance with an EV
The first thing to consider when planning a long EV road trip is to determine the charging stations. Plugshare is a great website that layers user-submitted charging stations over Google Maps.
The listed max range of the Bolt is 380 km, which theoretically could get us to Spokane (659 km total distance) with one charging stop. However, from previous experience driving other electric vehicles, I knew that highway driving speeds reduce range (air/wind resistance), and we were going to cross over a mountain (Snoqualmie Pass), which would also eat into the range. We decided to play it safe and plan out two charging stops.
One thing that surprised me was the sheer number of chargers in Washington State compared to British Columbia. As you can see on the map, there were plenty. Orange is DC fast-charging (level 3), which for our car meant approximately 250 km of range gained per hour of charging. At the BCIT Burnaby Campus, we have two DC fast-chargers as part of the OASIS project. Green is level 2 charging, which would provide about 20-30 km per hour of charging. Level 2 is the most common charger that you see at shopping malls, community centres (and at BCIT campuses!).
The driving experience with the car on the freeway was largely the same as a gasoline car. It’s quieter, smoother, but generally, it just drives like a typical car. It’s interesting to see the estimated range left on the battery, and in city driving, you can turn on “one-pedal driving” which brakes automatically whenever you take your foot off the throttle and recharges the battery. It was neat to see that this added a few kilometers of range after picking David up on Burnaby Mountain and driving back down the slope.
BCIT-Tips for traveling long distance with an EV
The charger displayed the estimated charging time.
Our first stop was an outlet mall just after the pass. It was approximately 280 km from the beginning of our trip, and we reached it with 63 kms of estimated range left in the battery. That’s about 10% less than the maximum range for the car (380km), but as mentioned before, we were doing all highway driving, we crossed a mountain, and we had snow tires on the vehicle. The latter two factors also reduced fuel economy on a gasoline vehicle, but we don’t typically have our car calculating that for us.
When we were done lunch, we came back to the car at 88% charge (300 km range) after 80 minutes and we were on our way. Total cost for the charge was $21.25 USD.
BCIT-Tips for traveling long distance with an EV
There were many charging stations at this stop.
Our next stop was literally at a Taco Bell on the side of the freeway. It had a whole bunch of charging stations for us to use. We went for a walk (no, we didn’t eat at Taco Bell) and came back to the charger after an hour. One mistake I made was not keeping the 10% range reduction estimate in mind, which I soon realized would get us to Spokane with basically an empty battery. We did a quick bathroom pit stop one more time to give us some extra range at a market café in a small town.
I ended up chatting with the store owner and she mentioned that she leases the parking stalls to the charging company (in this case Electrify America). Electrify America installed the chargers, pay for the electricity, and get charging revenues from drivers like us. The store owner gets consistent lease revenue and she appreciates that electric vehicle drivers stop by her store and spend anywhere from a few minutes to an hour hanging out. Sounds like a win-win business model!
When we got to our hotel, the valet found us an outlet in the parkade and we left the car plugged into a standard wall outlet for the duration of our stay. The car estimated it would need about 24 hours to charge to full, which worked for us as we had a two-night stay for the conference.
BCIT-Tips for traveling long distance with an EV 06
We found a little stopover at a petrified forest, complete with a solar-powered charging station.
When we left for our return trip, the car battery was full and we planned to stop at the same locations on the way home. Two factors impacted that plan: cold weather and traffic. It was well below zero and snowing when we left and it seemed to have a negative impact on the range (we were also driving into a headwind). We thought we’d have plenty of range to get back to the Taco Bell, but as we approached, it was clear we weren’t going to make it. Luckily, through the Plugshare app, we found a fun little stopover at a petrified forest, complete with a solar-powered charging station!
The other stop we planned to visit again in the outlet mall was not recommended by Google Maps traffic (Newsflash: Seattle traffic is horrible), so we bypassed Seattle, used the Plugshare app again, found a different charging station, and arrived home with plenty of range left on the battery.
All in all, it was a great learning and exploration experience. As well, a fun low-carbon way to travel over long distance.

Tips for traveling a long road trip with an EV

BCIT-BCIT-Tips for traveling long distance with an EV

These are five lessons that we learned from traveling from British Columbia to Washington.
  1. Don’t fully rely on your car’s range estimator – it calculates range based on past driving, so if your roadtrip will be much different (cold, mountainous, highway driving, snow tires) than the driving the car usually experiences, you should build in some buffer to your own charging range planning.
  2. The cost of high-speed (Level 3) EV charging in Washington is comparable to gas prices. For 1300 km of driving, we paid just over $100 in charging fees.
  3. High-speed charging won’t get you to 100% battery level at high speed. The charging slows down after about 85% to ensure battery health, so those last few percentage points of battery take quite a bit longer. Best to plan based on 80% of your car battery range.
  4. Be sure to factor in charging time to your trip. Each high-speed charging stop for us was about an hour.
  5. The faster you drive, the shorter the range. Don’t be afraid to take the scenic route and take your time!
 

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看你的目的地还有多远,留100公里就可以,这个需要充电的时间,就是每百公里15分钟了。去多伦多,如果路上已经开了300公里,只需要再充电200公里,必须休息的时间是半小时(对于一次能开400公里的电动汽车来说)
车状况不需要担忧时休息30分钟是休息,担惊受怕等30分钟,那是折磨。
 

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村长那么喜欢摆弄车的人, 怎么这贴里没有村长评论啊?
加油站以后的命运堪忧啊
 

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车状况不需要担忧时休息30分钟是休息,担惊受怕等30分钟,那是折磨。
你平常加油的时候也是担心受怕?
 

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结构简单粗暴 就是雷神四驱车
 

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你平常加油的时候也是担心受怕?
我不担心燃油车,因为这么多年历史,在加拿大已经经受考验了,但是我知道冬天有多少车因为电池原因不能启动。即便电动车电池是新型的,但加拿大的低温仍然对电池不利。而且大冬天高速路上充电半小时,不好受。
 

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我不担心燃油车,因为这么多年历史,在加拿大已经经受考验了,但是我知道冬天有多少车因为电池原因不能启动。即便电动车电池是新型的,但加拿大的低温仍然对电池不利。而且大冬天高速路上充电半小时,不好受。
笑死了,你加油的时候是在休息站的加油站吧,是一直在外面,因为只要一两分钟。
电动汽车充电的时候,插上充电插头你就可以去休息站里面吃东西上厕所到处逛逛了,需要你一直守在那里吗?
这思维,要换一下吧?
 

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国内数据是快充站充电45分钟,可跑300公里。
你开300公里(开3小时了),不歇一下的么?
如果大家都排着等45分钟/每位充电,你得多少个公共充电桩才够用呀?现在加油站油泵数的10倍?
 

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笑死了,你加油的时候是在休息站的加油站吧,是一直在外面,因为只要一两分钟。
电动汽车充电的时候,插上充电插头你就可以去休息站里面吃东西上厕所到处逛逛了,需要你一直守在那里吗?
这思维,要换一下吧?
以电车充电的速度,得需要多少休息站?加油站密度和加油速度有关联的,速度慢了,赚钱少,谁会开那么多休息室?到时候你得走多长时间去休息?
再说电车有没有电可不看有没有休息站,不考虑你的思维,说没就没,冬天充电还死费劲,你怎么办吧!
 

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如果大家都排着等45分钟/每位充电,你得多少个公共充电桩才够用呀?现在加油站油泵数的10倍?

一句话,现在的基建和充电技术或者电池技术根本就不具备大规模铺开电动车的水平,再等5到10年吧。

而且ev我看更适合后发国家,向中国这样的,没什么油可用。美国和加拿大变起来成本太高,不合算。
 

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看你的目的地还有多远,留100公里就可以,这个需要充电的时间,就是每百公里15分钟了。去多伦多,如果路上已经开了300公里,只需要再充电200公里,必须休息的时间是半小时(对于一次能开400公里的电动汽车来说)
我觉得要真正实用,续航必须达到400公里以上,充一次电3分钟以下达80%,5分钟充满,电池保10年。
 

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我觉得要真正实用,续航必须达到400公里以上,充一次电3分钟以下达80%,5分钟充满,电池保10年。
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