快断气了 - 俄罗斯要对欧洲下手了

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Europe heavily relies on Russia for gas. Here's how it's reacting to concerns about possible gas shortages​

From CNN staff

Some European countries are heavily dependent on Russia for their gas supply.
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said earlier this month that EU leaders had agreed to spend the next two months drafting proposals for eliminating the bloc's dependency on Russian energy imports by 2027.
Here's a look at actions some EU countries are taking:
Germany:
Russia's biggest energy customer in Europe had already taken measures to address the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. But now it is responding to more concerns about possible gas shortage along with other countries.
Germany has issued an "early warning" of possible natural gas shortages after Russia said it wanted to be paid in rubles and threatened to cut off supplies if that didn't happen.
"A payment with rubles is not acceptable," German economy minister Robert Habeck said on Monday.
Speaking at a news conference in Berlin on Wednesday, he said the warning stage was of a preventive nature and would see increased monitoring of gas supplies. He also called upon companies and consumers to use gas sparingly. German gas storage is currently filled to 25% capacity, according to Habeck.
"There are currently no supply shortages," he said. "Nevertheless, we must take further precautionary measures to be prepared for any escalation by Russia."
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz spoke on the phone with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin later on Wednesday, in which he stressed Berlin is committed to a G7 agreement that energy supplies from Russia would be paid for only in euros or US dollars, according to a German readout of the call.
Putin told Scholz the law that payments for Russian energy supplies would have to be made in rubles does not apply to European partners, and payments would continue to be made in euros and transferred to Gazprom Bank, which is not affected by sanctions, and then converted into rubles, according to the readout.
“Chancellor Scholz did not agree to this procedure in the conversation, but asked for written information to better understand the procedure,” the readout said.
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Netherlands: The Dutch government asked the public to use less gas as it hopes to reduce its dependency on Russian imports, according to a spokesperson for the economy ministry. However, the Netherlands would not be triggering a gas crisis plan, a spokesperson told CNN. Instead, the government hopes to reduce Dutch gas usage through a campaign addressing its citizens.
Austria: Vienna issued an "early warning" of possible natural gas shortages in the country, which also follows Russia's threat to cut off supplies if it was not paid in rubles. The early-stage warning sees Austria take "the next step in the preparation for an emergency," Climate Minister Leonore Gewessler wrote on Twitter.
 
还是俄罗斯银行GazpromBank(GB)买卢布, 不是德国买卢布。

赤脚的不怕穿鞋的。毛子少开采一点,油气还在那里。

如果欧洲被高油气价格去产能,时间拖长了,就会变成被去工业化。那是永久的损失。

从G7一致否决到同意讨论卢布作为天然气结算货币的需求,现在肯定是毛子处于谈判中强势主动地位。

离婚官司还能打个3年五载,何况这种涉及到生存生产基本刚需问题的谈判。靴子一时半会落不下来。
 
10 min ago

France and Germany refuse to pay for Russian gas in rubles​

From Inke Kappeler in Berlin

German Economy and Climate Protection Minister Robert Habeck, left, listens as French Minister of Economy and Finance Bruno Le Maire speaks during a news conference in Berlin on Thursday.
German Economy and Climate Protection Minister Robert Habeck, left, listens as French Minister of Economy and Finance Bruno Le Maire speaks during a news conference in Berlin on Thursday. (Sean Gallup/Getty Images)
German and French economic ministers said Thursday that they were committed to existing agreements with Russia on making the payments for Russian gas supplies only in euros.
“The contracts are in euros and must be paid in euros and will be paid in euros,” French Minister of Economy and Finance Bruno Le Maire said during a joint news conference with his German counterpart Robert Habeck.
“We will not accept the method of payment for [Russian] gas in any other currency than stated in the contract,” Le Maire added.
Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that according to a newly signed decree regarding natural gas trading with “unfriendly countries,” companies will need to have accounts in Russian banks and pay for contracts in rubles.
At a separate news conference Thursday, Habeck said that Germany is “prepared” for all scenarios, including a stoppage of Russian gas flows to Europe, while Le Maire said France is “preparing” in case Russia cuts off gas deliveries.
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz also insisted Thursday that Berlin will make payments for Russian gas only in euros.
“We have looked at the contracts on gas delivery and other deliveries. [The contracts state] that payments are to be made in euros, sometimes in US dollars, but mostly in euros. And I made clear in my conversation with the Russian president that this will remain as it is,” Scholz said in Berlin during a joint news conference with his Austrian counterpart Karl Nehammer.
“It is a terrible feeling to be dependent on Russian energy at the moment,” the Austrian chancellor said.
“We must secure energy supplies to make sure that the economy functions, because the gas coming from Russia is not only being used for private households but also by industries where jobs are concerned, and prosperity must be maintained,” Nehammer said.

16 min ago

Russian bank appointed to open accounts in rubles for gas buyers from "unfriendly countries," state media says​

From CNN's Chris Liakos

Gazprombank has been appointed as an authorized bank that will open special accounts in rubles for gas buyers from "unfriendly countries" and will sell currency for conversion into rubles for gas payment at Moscow Exchange auctions, Russian state news agency TASS reported Thursday.
Russian President Vladimir Putin announced Thursday that according to a newly signed decree regarding natural gas trading with "unfriendly countries," companies will need to open ruble accounts in Russian banks, and payments should come from these accounts.
Putin made the comments during a virtual meeting that he was chairing to discuss measures to support Russian airlines hit by Western sanctions.
According to TASS, the Bank of Russia must determine within 10 days the procedure for opening special currency accounts for foreign gas buyers.
“In a situation when the financial systems of Western countries are weaponized and companies from these countries refuse to perform their contracts with Russian banks, companies and individuals, and when assets in dollars and euros are frozen, there is no point using the currencies of these countries,” Putin said earlier during his speech.
These actions will strengthen Russia’s financial sovereignty, Putin said.
“We shall continue to steadily and systemically move in this direction as part of a long-term plan,” he said.
 
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10 min ago

France and Germany refuse to pay for Russian gas in rubles​

From Inke Kappeler in Berlin

German Economy and Climate Protection Minister Robert Habeck, left, listens as French Minister of Economy and Finance Bruno Le Maire speaks during a news conference in Berlin on Thursday.
German Economy and Climate Protection Minister Robert Habeck, left, listens as French Minister of Economy and Finance Bruno Le Maire speaks during a news conference in Berlin on Thursday. (Sean Gallup/Getty Images)
German and French economic ministers said Thursday that they were committed to existing agreements with Russia on making the payments for Russian gas supplies only in euros.
“The contracts are in euros and must be paid in euros and will be paid in euros,” French Minister of Economy and Finance Bruno Le Maire said during a joint news conference with his German counterpart Robert Habeck.
“We will not accept the method of payment for [Russian] gas in any other currency than stated in the contract,” Le Maire added.
Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that according to a newly signed decree regarding natural gas trading with “unfriendly countries,” companies will need to have accounts in Russian banks and pay for contracts in rubles.
At a separate news conference Thursday, Habeck said that Germany is “prepared” for all scenarios, including a stoppage of Russian gas flows to Europe, while Le Maire said France is “preparing” in case Russia cuts off gas deliveries.
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz also insisted Thursday that Berlin will make payments for Russian gas only in euros.

“It is a terrible feeling to be dependent on Russian energy at the moment,” the Austrian chancellor said.
“We must secure energy supplies to make sure that the economy functions, because the gas coming from Russia is not only being used for private households but also by industries where jobs are concerned, and prosperity must be maintained,” Nehammer said.

16 min ago

Russian bank appointed to open accounts in rubles for gas buyers from "unfriendly countries," state media says​

From CNN's Chris Liakos

Gazprombank has been appointed as an authorized bank that will open special accounts in rubles for gas buyers from "unfriendly countries" and will sell currency for conversion into rubles for gas payment at Moscow Exchange auctions, Russian state news agency TASS reported Thursday.
Russian President Vladimir Putin announced Thursday that according to a newly signed decree regarding natural gas trading with "unfriendly countries," companies will need to open ruble accounts in Russian banks, and payments should come from these accounts.
Putin made the comments during a virtual meeting that he was chairing to discuss measures to support Russian airlines hit by Western sanctions.
According to TASS, the Bank of Russia must determine within 10 days the procedure for opening special currency accounts for foreign gas buyers.
“In a situation when the financial systems of Western countries are weaponized and companies from these countries refuse to perform their contracts with Russian banks, companies and individuals, and when assets in dollars and euros are frozen, there is no point using the currencies of these countries,” Putin said earlier during his speech.
These actions will strengthen Russia’s financial sovereignty, Putin said.
“We shall continue to steadily and systemically move in this direction as part of a long-term plan,” he said.
11 min ago

UK says it will not accept Putin's demand to pay for Russian gas in rubles​

From CNN's Niamh Kennedy and Anastasia Graham Yooll in London

Britain will not accept Russian President Vladimir Putin's demand to pay for Russian gas in rubles, a spokesperson for the UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson said.
The spokesperson said that British Energy Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng had made it clear that "this is not something that the UK would be looking into."
Russian President Vladimir Putin announced Thursday that according to a newly signed decree regarding the natural gas trading with "unfriendly countries," companies will need to open ruble accounts in Russian banks and payments should come from these accounts.
The UK will examine the impact of this measure on the European market, the spokesperson added.
French and German economic ministers on Thursday also refused to pay for gas in rubles, saying they are committed to existing agreements with Russia on making the payments for Russian gas supplies only in euros.
 
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Putin says "unfriendly" countries must pay in rubles for gas or contracts will be suspended​


Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that according to a newly signed decree regarding natural gas trading with “unfriendly countries,” companies will need to have accounts in Russian banks and pay for contracts in rubles.
“Today, I signed a decree which sets the rules for trading in Russian natural gas with the so-called unfriendly states. We suggest that counter-parties in these countries use a very simple and transparent scheme in order to buy Russian gas they need to open ruble accounts in Russian banks, and payments should come from these accounts,” Putin said on Thursday.
The new rules take effect tomorrow, April 1.
“If these payments are not made, we shall deem this as non-performance on the part of the buyers and that will lead to consequences. Nobody gives us anything for free and we’re not about to be charitable,” Putin said, adding that active contracts will be suspended.


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看看家里有矿的很,还是家里有现金的很
看谁眨眼吧。


India continues to toe the line on Ukraine crisis at forum​

From CNN's Swati Gupta in Delhi

At the first India-UK Strategic Futures Forum on Thursday, Indian Foreign Minister S. Jaishankar continued India’s stance of not intervening significantly in the Ukraine-Russia conflict.
“The real problems are still to come, certainly for our part of the world. We are seeing the impact of the conflict on energy prices, on commodities. … All of this has consequences on the rest of the world, and we are seeing that,” Jaishankar said.
India has declined to take a stance on the conflict in Ukraine and has abstained from multiple United Nations votes. It has instead called for a resolution through diplomacy and peace talks.
Jaishankar acknowledged that the world economy has seen multiple “shocks” in the past 2-3 years, with the Covid-19, the Taliban taking over Afghanistan and now the conflict in Ukraine.
“Some of it also depends on proximity. … What we saw happening in Afghanistan last summer had a very, very strong impact, especially in India. I would probably say it did not have the same impact in Europe. … The ability to relate, the ability to identify – some of it is proximity – that is also a factor,” said Jaishankar, responding to a question on the moral impact of the events in Ukraine.
UK Foreign Secretary Elizabeth Truss repeatedly pointed out how countries across the world are stepping up and denouncing Russia’s attack on Ukraine in an attempt to support every country’s right to democracy.
“We are living in a more insecure world precisely because we have seen Putin’s appalling invasion of Ukraine and violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and the shattering of European security,” Truss said.
India has seen a flurry of foreign leaders arriving in the country over the past two weeks. Russia Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov arrived Thursday evening for a series of meetings.
 
一切都在美国的按剧本走,两败俱伤,从此俄导向中国,欧洲臣服于美国,最后美欧再建一个把中俄排除在外的新的全球化圈子并继续主宰之。

另外,加拿大肯定也是受益者之一。
 
一切都在美国的按剧本走,两败俱伤,从此俄导向中国,欧洲臣服于美国,最后美欧再建一个把中俄排除在外的新的全球化圈子并继续主宰之
说不定把印度搞成变数,不管怎么样,对中国也不是最差的结果,因为美国早都形成共识,搞倒中国,有个俄罗斯垫背总比孤立强,俄罗斯有能源矿产和非常聪明的人才和1.4亿人口的市场。老毛子数学可能是全世界最强的。
 
说不定把印度搞成变数,不管怎么样,对中国也不是最差的结果,因为美国早都形成共识,搞倒中国,有个俄罗斯垫背总比孤立强,俄罗斯有能源矿产和非常聪明的人才和1.4亿人口的市场。老毛子数学可能是全世界最强的。

你知道毛子自视是很高的,他们的文化,他们的宗教和血统,那是金贵的不得了。最终和无神的中国尿道一壶去不容易,最多虚与尾蛇。

美国和欧洲的纽带不只是钱,他们都是新教立国的,这一点是很重要。
 
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你知道毛子自视是很高的,他们的文化,他们的宗教和血统,那是金贵的不得了。最终和无神的中国尿道一壶去不容易,最多虚与尾蛇。

美国和欧洲的纽带不只是钱,他们都是新教立国的,这一点是很重要。
老毛子跟谁都搞不好,跟欧洲大陆从来都没有融合过。二战之前世界落魄的老大英国也是拉德国打老毛子。

同种的宗教,特别是不同分支从来都是比对不同种的宗教有更大仇恨。
逊尼派和什叶派从来都是最大的对手,美国搞倒逊尼派的萨拉姆,在伊拉克搞民主选举,结果造成占大多数的什叶派上台,融合跟伊拉克叙利亚连城一块,最近逊尼派跟天生的敌人以色列联手对付什叶派的伊朗

Blinken去跟以色列和逊尼派的一帮国家讨论怎么对付什叶派的伊朗


中国跟俄罗斯半路夫妻,凑合着过吧,最终分手是肯定的。
 
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老毛子跟谁都搞不好,跟欧洲大陆从来都没有融合过。二战之前世界落魄的老大英国也是拉德国打老毛子。

同种的宗教,特别是不同分支从来都是比对不同种的宗教有更大仇恨。
逊尼派和什叶派从来都是最大的对手,美国搞倒逊尼派的萨拉姆,在伊拉克搞民主选举,结果造成占大多数的什叶派上台,融合跟伊拉克叙利亚连城一块,最近逊尼派跟天生的敌人以色列联手对付什叶派的伊朗

Blinken去跟以色列和逊尼派的一帮国家讨论怎么对付什叶派的伊朗


中国跟俄罗斯半路夫妻,凑合着过吧,最终分手是肯定的。
老美这次不会轻易放毛子走的。耗也要把毛子耗去大半条命。

打一战:沙俄垮了
打阿富汗:苏联垮了
打乌克兰:俄罗斯这22个自治共和国会不会散架?
 
赤脚的不怕穿鞋的。毛子少开采一点,油气还在那里。

如果欧洲被高油气价格去产能,时间拖长了,就会变成被去工业化。那是永久的损失。

从G7一致否决到同意讨论卢布作为天然气结算货币的需求,现在肯定是毛子处于谈判中强势主动地位。

离婚官司还能打个3年五载,何况这种涉及到生存生产基本刚需问题的谈判。靴子一时半会落不下来。

俄罗斯这次如果不能让欧洲屈服,以后机会渺茫。
2021年,欧盟有45%天然气从俄国进口。

欧洲能源正在积极转型,希望戒除对俄罗斯能源的依赖。
欧盟矢言今年底前将俄国天然气进口减少3分之2,届时,俄能源筹码大幅缩水。
 
俄罗斯这次如果不能让欧洲屈服,以后机会渺茫。
2021年,欧盟有45%天然气从俄国进口。

欧洲能源正在积极转型,希望戒除对俄罗斯能源的依赖。
欧盟矢言今年底前将俄国天然气进口减少3分之2,届时,俄能源筹码大幅缩水。

无论建LNG船和码头,还是铺设通向中东的油气管道,都不是短期可以解决的问题。

欧洲依赖的不只是俄罗斯能源,而是俄罗斯能源廉价。如果把廉价俄罗斯能源换成其他高价能源,欧洲的钢铁业化工业都会失去竞争力了。

如果欧洲能承受长期经济衰退,人民生活水平下降,那不服是不行的! 呵呵
 
意大利开始“就坡下驴”了,使用卢布购买天然气!眼看普京即将关闭天燃气阀门,欧盟内部已经出现分裂。刚刚意大利和斯洛伐克表态,将按照普京提出的方案继续购买天然气。其中意大利总理表示,自己在前一天已经与普京通话,使用卢布支付违反购买合同的规定,不可接受也不可行!但可以尝试使用……同时他也表示,会继续支付美元和欧元购买天然气,兑换成卢布是俄罗斯内政。

意大利总理这番表态绕来绕去,既不想被指责向普京服软,更不想被断供天然气。普京显然也料到了这一点,允许在瑞士的俄银行使用欧元兑换成卢布,然后购买天然气。在瑞士兑换和在莫斯科兑换,实际意义差别不大,但却给了欧盟各国一个台阶。既然普京留了“面子”,意大利和斯洛伐克也就“就坡下驴”。相对于意大利和斯洛伐克,还有很多欧盟国家对俄罗斯天然气更加依赖。既然有国家挑头,想必近期会有大批欧盟国家陆续选择妥协方案。



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