美好的憧憬,蒙特利尔-渥太华-多伦多高铁,预算8千万/公里

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由于冬天高速公路上驾驶很危险,转展于各机场也有诸多不便,而且经常出现航班延误,政府现在的方案提高魁北克市至温莎的列车班次,速度是90-120/公里,也许可以更快一些。

并不期望魁北克市到温莎1000公里全程高铁,支持蒙特利尔,渥太华,多伦多建高铁,这三个城市人口占加拿大总数的三分之一。

成本的确很高,魁北克市至温莎1000公里,预算为800亿,每公里8千万,比欧洲的3千2百万高2倍半。

It’s high time for a high-speed train in Canada

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trainA Eurostar train is parked at a platform of the Paris' Gare du Nord station on Thrusday. STEFANO RELLANDINI / AFP via GETTY

Éric Blais Contributor

Aug 6, 2023

Every winter at Mont-Tremblant, skiers are swiftly whisked to the peak by the TGV chairlift, enjoying its promise of high speed — a reference to France’s Train à Grande Vitesse (TGV). It’s not just about thrill-seeking; it’s about efficiency, about maximizing the day. Every G7 nation, save Canada, has embraced high-speed rail travel, even the U.S. along its Boston-Washington corridor.

Over the past 40 years, I’ve traversed the Toronto-Montreal corridor by car, plane, and train. Each mode has its pains: treacherous Highway 401 drives in winter, flight delays, or the inconvenience of airport choices. Often, a simple leg like Cobourg to Toronto by car takes longer than Montreal to Brockville. Why shouldn’t we have a swifter, efficient, and perhaps safer alternative?

Let’s look at some numbers. A third of Canada’s population is concentrated in the Toronto, Montreal, and Ottawa areas. Add to that the frequent travellers from other regions and we have a sizable demand for a high-speed connection along this corridor.


Now, the elephant in the room: the cost. A high-speed train will sound like another tax to many Canadians. An $80 billion price tag for a full high-speed train riding on 1,000 km of rails between Windsor and Quebec City priced at $80 million/km, which seems high compared to the $32 million/km for many TGV projects in Europe, according to a 2018 report. But let’s weigh this against the advantages: massive time savings, potential job growth and a significant boost to regional economies.

Ottawa’s current plan indicates a preference for a high-frequency rail, enhancing speeds from 90 km/h to a still-modest 120 km/h. However, their recent call for proposals hints at a possibility for something even faster. We could be talking about travelling at speeds rivalling the iconic European TGVs, cutting down travel times dramatically.

We certainly don’t need another Mirabel airport, but we need to think about the long-term and look for value for money. I’m not holding my breath for a high-speed train service between Windsor and Quebec City, but I am for one between Toronto and Montreal.

My plea to Ottawa: Consider a higher frequency for Windsor-Toronto, Montreal-Ottawa, and Quebec City-Montreal. This would cater to more regular commuters. And for the Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal stretch, a high-speed train. Even if the fare matches a flight ticket, think about the convenience — departing from downtown Toronto and arriving in the heart of Montreal in under two hours.


In the mid-’80s, New York City’s Metropolitan Transportation Authority offered the JFK Express for travellers who wanted to “take the train to the plane,” highlighting the smooth transition from rail to flight. Imagine, for millions of Canadians, a journey without the pain — all aboard a train. Isn’t it high time we caught up?

Éric Blais is the president of Headspace Marketing in Toronto.

 
赶紧。去蒙特利尔开车太久。这三城合理时间是四十分窝村到蒙德利尔。一个半小时到土狼吞
 
现在去土狼囤正常车票100多,你说高铁收你多少吧
 
Sounds good :good:


上年纪看花眼了,还以为是八千万公里,那得三地绕多少圈儿啊 :shy:

@Jay Wang
 
说不定,又找拉完灵施工,真不如牛拉。
这还真得找他们和Alstom联合干,他们已经有跟政府扯皮的几十年经验,包含三级政府,和加拿大几大相关城市。换一个公司,起码得先学扯皮几十年
高铁,那更只有Alstom西门子和日本几个选项,问题是只有Alstom有加拿大经验,新移民找一个工作都得有加拿大经验,别提高铁了

预算为800亿,我估计光扯皮都要这个数,这还不包含public inquiry
 
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我憧憬ING,但是我不确信这高铁能按设计要求跑。:evil:
能跑的火车,那只是一般水平;不能跑的火车,那才是最高境界,就像武林剑客比划一下立马翻江倒海
 
怎么说呢,目前这个火车票价格每天不到15趟车吧,800亿一天运2000人哪年回本啊
Even if the fare matches a flight ticket, think about the convenience — departing from downtown Toronto and arriving in the heart of Montreal in under two hours.

多伦多到蒙特利尔不到两小时,距离应当超过600公里,时速超过300公里。

不知为什么加拿大高铁成本这么高,中国在山区很多地方需要修隧道,在人口密集的城市,需要建高架桥。安省,魁省基本不需要这些额外高花费。
 
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