请支持"夫母移民加快速度"请愿, 签名递交众议院, 如果你爱你父母的话(ZT)

[support]

letter from petiton sponsorship forum

Hello everybody!



Please read article in Today? Toronto Star. http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...id=970599119419

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Situation is very bad. They want to find Political Decision of our problem.

I see the decision as they make it a law ?on? admit parents to Canada? Government will find good reasons for such decision and will return us money with interest. Finish!



We shouldn? allow it happened!



I encourage EVERYBODY to take actions:



1. Send letter if you haven? done so before, to the Toronto Sun http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Toron...903244-sun.html

reporter Tom Godfrey tom.godfrey@tor.sunpub.com to show your support. We would like to have a bigger article in the press addressing our issue. Please put your full name, address and phone number in your letter. If you don? write your full real name in letter to official Media you just ruin our movement.



If you still afraid to publish you name please stay far away from us. Everybody who is scared please block my messages on your computer or ask me to remove your name from my database.

Ask you friends, coworkers and everybody who cares to send letter to Tom in support us.



2. Organize submission of Petition in your riding. It? very important. In several riding people already made appointments with MP in order to submit the Petition, I?l send you later names of such ridings with dates.

We have only 16 ridings across Canada where volunteers are collecting signatures on Petition. It? not enough.



3. Please find members of Opposition Party in your riding. It? easily to find from Party website. Describe our movement and ask politicians for help.



4. Everybody has to be active. Please spread information about our movement everywhere. You can use very good ?nnouncement?I will forward to everybody again in my next e-mail. I got this ?nnouncement?from one member of our Forum.

 

[support]

BE CAUTION -- the shadow of DISCRIMINATION

Base on the message from Toronto star, Our government could decide who they want for now. In the furture, they can also decide who they want to keep in this Country.

BE CAUTION ABOUT IT.

DISCRIMINATION

 

[support]

Re: BE CAUTION -- the shadow of DISCRIMINATION

最初由 support 发布
Base on the message from Toronto star, Our government could decide who is the most they want today, and, In the future, they can also decide who is the most they don't want to keep.


BE CAUTION ABOUT IT.

DISCRIMINATION

 

[过客]

最初由 某某 发布
首先，我是支持你的行动的

但是，“如果你爱你父母的话”--这句话，听着有点刺耳
爱父母有很多种表达和行动的方式
你的标题，让人有种感觉就是不帮你签名就不爱自己父母......
这不太合适吧？

同感. 标题提法太不合适

 

[GoldMonkey]

说实话, 真想让父母快一点来加拿大团聚, 可以办父母来探亲(visitor visa). 探亲签证很快, 如果不要体检, 一般头天递交, 第二天即可取得签证. 从开始办材料到见到父母, 快的话, 一两个月即可. 我的朋友们和父母团聚都很快.

办移民, 我想主要还是为了让父母能享用加拿大的免费医疗服务. 真要快点团聚, 可以办探亲.

 

[oread]

Re: Immigration in dire need of overhaul(ZT)

It seems that the reality works against your wish. According to that article, about 40% of total immigrants come through as family-class or as refugees. Among the 40%, the family class usually accounts for about 25%.

Again, using that "what's in it for me" philosophy, perhaps we could argue that the percentage of refugees should be further reduced. But how do you get people to care? That's the question.

最初由 support 发布
"However, time and again, Canadians have said they want a focus on independent immigrants who are chosen for their skills and who have demonstrated they integrate and contribute to the economy more quickly."

 

[Xiaomimi]

Re: Re: Immigration in dire need of overhaul(ZT)

最初由 渐渐 发布
Again, using that "what's in it for me" philosophy, perhaps we could argue that the percentage of refugees should be further reduced. But how do you get people to care? That's the question.

Why ? What's wrong with refugee ? They are mostly young and can pat taxes for many year before they use the medicare system.

The only group of immigrant that should be reduced is parents. Australia, for example, doesn't allow parent immigration at all.

 

[stjoseph]

支持加快处理速度。也许要求一两年就办好父母移民是过分的要求，但如果要等七八年也是非常不合情理的。在希望为父母办理移民的人和所有在加拿大的纳税人之间应该可以找到一个平衡点，让希望和父母团聚的人能够如愿以偿，同时又防止社会福利被滥用，不给社会增加太多负担。澳大利亚前一段时间刚对其父母担保移民条例作了改进，可以供加拿大参考。

 

[oread]

Re: Re: Re: Immigration in dire need of overhaul(ZT)

If they are young and skilled, they can apply independent class immigration like the rest of immigrants who enter Canada through legal channels.

Refugees should be put back on a boat and sent home, AND bill the government where they came from.

最初由 Xiaomimi 发布


Why ? What's wrong with refugee ? They are mostly young and can pat taxes for many year before they use the medicare system.

The only group of immigrant that should be reduced is parents. Australia, for example, doesn't allow parent immigration at all.

 

[stjoseph]

Re: Re: Re: Immigration in dire need of overhaul(ZT)

Australia DOES allow parent immigration! Actually they increased the quota for parent immigration recently. If you have parents and if they live in China alone, you should be able to understand those people who want to sponsor their parents to come here.

最初由 Xiaomimi 发布


Why ? What's wrong with refugee ? They are mostly young and can pat taxes for many year before they use the medicare system.

The only group of immigrant that should be reduced is parents. Australia, for example, doesn't allow parent immigration at all.

 

[Xiaomimi]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Immigration in dire need of overhaul(ZT)

最初由 stjoseph 发布
Australia DOES allow parent immigration! Actually they increased the quota for parent immigration recently. If you have parents and if they live in China alone, you should be able to understand those people who want to sponsor their parents to come here.

Yes, but my understanding about Australia is this (correct me if I am wrong).

1. Very low quota. Like 100 per year ?
2. The sponsoring children are required to pay for their parents midecare insurance ?

 

[stjoseph]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Immigration in dire need of overhaul(ZT)

You'd better use google before making mistakes.

最初由 Xiaomimi 发布


Yes, but my understanding about Australia is this (correct me if I am wrong).

1. Very low quota. Like 100 per year ?
2. The sponsoring children are required to pay for their parents midecare insurance ?

 

[cupid]

加拿大没有理由拖延我们的父母来养老。我们的父母的确没有给加拿大叫过一分钱税，但是加拿大也没有花一分钱在我们的从托儿所一直到大学毕业的教育上。我们的父母和国家把我们培养大了，我们本来是要赡养父母的，本来是要替中国贡献的。虽说我们是自愿直接来替加拿大做贡献，但是加拿大在我们的教育上可是省了一大笔，难道我们的父母就不能享用他们的福利？

我申请父母是2002年递的表，2003年3月北京使馆发的档案号。说等18个月，按理去年9月份就该有消息，结果到现在一点声音也没有。发EMAIL去北京问。得到一份COPY&PASTE的回答。说2004年递的申请现在要排36个月。我们使馆将来不再答复此类问题。可是我父母是2003年就拿到档案号的。。。他NND。。根本连我的EMAIL都不看。

其实，加拿大政府就是不想让老年人来。所以申请时间越拖越久，他们希望我们来替他们养老，不希望我们给我们自己的父母养老。

 

[stjoseph]

移民的父母来确实有可能会占用一些福利.不过趁着他们年轻的时候来,还有机会给社会做一些贡献.另外澳大利亚的做法是子女在申请父母来以前支付一笔合理的钱作为父母今后的医疗费.我认为也可以考虑.总比让人等七八年甚至更长好.

最初由 cupid 发布
加拿大没有理由拖延我们的父母来养老。我们的父母的确没有给加拿大叫过一分钱税，但是加拿大也没有花一分钱在我们的从托儿所一直到大学毕业的教育上。我们的父母和国家把我们培养大了，我们本来是要赡养父母的，本来是要替中国贡献的。虽说我们是自愿直接来替加拿大做贡献，但是加拿大在我们的教育上可是省了一大笔，难道我们的父母就不能享用他们的福利？

我申请父母是2002年递的表，2003年3月北京使馆发的档案号。说等18个月，按理去年9月份就该有消息，结果到现在一点声音也没有。发EMAIL去北京问。得到一份COPY&PASTE的回答。说2004年递的申请现在要排36个月。我们使馆将来不再答复此类问题。可是我父母是2003年就拿到档案号的。。。他NND。。根本连我的EMAIL都不看。

其实，加拿大政府就是不想让老年人来。所以申请时间越拖越久，他们希望我们来替他们养老，不希望我们给我们自己的父母养老。

 

[oread]

You are not going to sell this to any Canadian.

Your education is paid by China, so what you really should do is to stay in China, but you CHOSE to come to Canada. Now Canadian government is sponsoring your welfare, but should the Canadian government also sponsor your parents' welfare? I think that's the question many Canadians have a hard time to accept.

To sell your point, you've got to emphasize on the emotional side: it's inhumane and simply wrong to not take care of an aging parent. Don't focus on the hard facts, because that's a losing battle.

最初由 cupid 发布
加拿大没有理由拖延我们的父母来养老。我们的父母的确没有给加拿大叫过一分钱税，但是加拿大也没有花一分钱在我们的从托儿所一直到大学毕业的教育上。我们的父母和国家把我们培养大了，我们本来是要赡养父母的，本来是要替中国贡献的。虽说我们是自愿直接来替加拿大做贡献，但是加拿大在我们的教育上可是省了一大笔，难道我们的父母就不能享用他们的福利？