不在沉默中爆发,就在沉默中........












变态!!!!
 
虽然游行的时候不用比较其他国家,但去之前却不得不比较,因为有比较才知道自己有没有被歧视!!!

不要做任人鞭抽刀剐的死猪,要做有血性的人!!!
 
最初由 蔚蓝色地中海 发布



如果政府能公正地分别对待这些情况不通的CASE,我想排队也不用等10年了。问题是很多有这个特殊需要的人被耽误了,而且不是少数。
父母来不来也有不同情况,这里你说的只是其一。问题是申请了的人和准备申请的人都是有这个需要的而且人数和批准人数比例已经超过100:1甚至更多,我想这些人不是吃饱了没事干吧。而这里吓人的比例是因为政府的基数过于偏离人道和公允制定的100人而出。
我们不要再讨论这些中庸的说法吧。你不支持也可以保持缄默。但这里没有人有这个权利去干扰别人争取人道上合法的权利。

Yes, but as government, it doesn't have time to judge which has more priority, who doesn't. Everyone can give out all kinds of reason to tell people they need to come here. If you have priority, then why not others. So the only way thing government can do is to shut the door. There are total number of immigrants, if Canada want to have more skill workers, like you and me, then it can only allow fewer parents reunions and refugees to come in.

I am not against parents reunions, but I don't blindly support unless you can convince me it's the right thing for this country for the long run.

I don't have to keep silence. If you tell me others doing this is based human reason, then why not also convince the government to allow more refugees from Africa, who needs more help than our parents from China.
 
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最初由 lifeisfun 发布


Sure, you can get your parents over. But do you know how mnay parents really want to live here. If you would like to make your parents happy, then you'd better go back to China to live with them there.

既然选择了移民而且在这里工作,为何一定要回中国尽孝心?是有不喜欢这里的老人,可是如果家里的孩子都在国外只有老人在国内,而且有的是独自一人在国内,到了晚上只有自己在家,有个头疼脑热的都没有人在身边照料?这是靠几次探亲可以解决的吗?人老了和孩子生活在一起比自己一个人生活难道不更加快乐吗?快乐是一种感觉,一家人聚在一起,晚上回家可以一起聊聊天看看电视,这就是一种天伦之乐。

Well, many aged people don't like to live here as they don't understand the language, they have to rely on the kids from driving them out, they have all other kinds of problem within the family (you should know that if you are married). They can live with their kids, but they miss the old friends and colleagues in China. Sure, there is advantage to be able to see kids around. But are these advantages are so big as some of you claim. Everything has double side, and you have to admit that. Plus the winter here is so bitter and so long.
 
最初由 月牙 发布
达到政府担保团聚收入要求的有工作的人每年向政府交纳的税足够养他的父母余;相反低收入虽然暂时不能团聚父母,但每年交的税基本上也都退回自己手上,凭什么说我们父母将要花你纳的税?笑话!

But don't you know one of the reason the government tightened parents reunion is just because many sponsors broke their promises and let their parents be burden to the society? Don't you see many parents immigrated here and ends up living in subsidy apartment for aged people? Do you know how much tax you paid and how much medicare cost it will be for aged people? I am not saying aged people shouldn't be cared, but if it's your country and your money, do some calculation and let me know.
 
最初由 过客 发布
也劝楼主不必心寒.做自己认为该做的.不必指望所有人都为你喝彩.

That's the reality. Don't expect everyone to agree with you, and don't expect nobody to disagree with you. As long as we clam down and express yourself in a proper manner, that's healthy.
 
Where to find the official info about 给中国的名额只有100? Thanks
 
我也想知道从那里得到的信息,说给中国的名额只有100...我下午在CIC找了一下,没看到啊.
 
别的我不管, 我每年交的税买一辆新CAMRY还有余. 为何我的父母亲来不了而那些三流四流的家伙们来了就拿钱? 这个王八蛋的自由党政府为何总跟我过不去? 省里的自由党政府更不用说了. 我忍无可忍了. 星期五不知能否去. 但我要见我们区的MP(CPC).
 
最初由 月牙 发布
lifeisfun
如不需要这个权益或已经享受着,请不必为大家劳神操心!

He of course has right to defend his own interest, namely his tax and medicare.

You do not want to pay your parent's medicare cost, so you want the rest of us Canadian suckers to just pay up and shut up, is it what it is all about ?
 
最初由 月牙 发布
lifeisfun
如不需要这个权益或已经享受着,请不必为大家劳神操心!

I didn't enjoy this benefits and I will not enjoy it in the future. I just see so many cases of abusing this system and I am fed up here as a tax payer. I have my right to voice my opinions. If everyone agrees with you guys, then why bother to protest, as you will solve this problem already. Just because many people (including many Chinese)
have the same thinking like I do, the government changed the policy.
You have your right to voice your view and I have no problem with that. But don't ask people to shut up just because he has different view. If that's the case, why cann't you guys to shut up as well.
 
最初由 lifeisfun 发布


I didn't enjoy this benefits and I will not enjoy it in the future.

你这种捣乱分子就是欠扁!
 
最初由 wpolar_bearx 发布
别的我不管, 我每年交的税买一辆新CAMRY还有余. 为何我的父母亲来不了而那些三流四流的家伙们来了就拿钱? 这个王八蛋的自由党政府为何总跟我过不去? 省里的自由党政府更不用说了. 我忍无可忍了. 星期五不知能否去. 但我要见我们区的MP(CPC).

Well, you also live on your tax dollar too, like enjoying the medicare and other services. If the government let more aged people and refugees in, then you may have to pay more tax, which even you can use to buy a Lexus.

So what's your logic here, you think you have already paid more tax and you should get your parents over? Then maybe the better way for this government to do on this issue is to get rid of the medicare, and reduce your tax. By doing that, you can get all your family over and live on your own (no medicare, no subsidy housing) and I am telling you that I absolutely support you on that.

The whole issue is this country has so generous social program, which cost a lot of tax payer's money and couldn't sustain itself for its own people. Now more and more aged people coming as immigrants would entitle the same benefits as Canadian, which will make things even worse.

Maybe the better solution (but I don't see it's a feasible one in Canada) is
to dismantle the social program (like in USA) and let everyone live on their own (pay your own housing and medicare). Then you have all the rights to get your family here as no one would care you and you care for yourself.
 
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