最初由 农民工 发布
善并不是神所要求的结果。神的要求是信。
人是不可能达到神的善的。以神的标准,世人所行的都是恶。而自以为善本身是最大的罪恶,因为它使人远离神。
神就是善。致善的唯一途径是和神合一。而信,正是是与神合一的钥匙。
(没时间展开,以后再说吧。)
最初由 new2004 发布
To all friends interested in this topic,
Do you want to join a meeting for further discussions? Most questions proposed by friends were discussed and solved in the process when I became a Christian. I appreciate brother 农民工 posted this topic and spent a lot of time to answer questions. God bless you! I feel that posting/answering questions this way may not be efficient enough for many people having tons of questions, typing slowly. So I'd like to invite all of you to join a meeting.
How: send me your email address
or phone number in 悄悄话
I'll send you email and call you back.
When: TBD
Note: dinner and tea will be served without charges for the meeting.
Are the free dinner and tea provided by God? If they are, I will join you.
laughing. why provide a hook for people? you think we will love god when you give those things free.
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Jesus said: " 你们祈求,就给你们;寻找,就寻见;叩门,就给你们开门。"
最初由 农民工 发布
善并不是神所要求的结果。神的要求是信。
人是不可能达到神的善的。以神的标准,世人所行的都是恶。而自以为善本身是最大的罪恶,因为它使人远离神。
神就是善。致善的唯一途径是和神合一。而信,正是是与神合一的钥匙。
(没时间展开,以后再说吧。)
最初由 new2004 发布
To all friends interested in this topic,
Do you want to join a meeting for further discussions? Most questions proposed by friends were discussed and solved in the process when I became a Christian. I appreciate brother 农民工 posted this topic and spent a lot of time to answer questions. God bless you! I feel that posting/answering questions this way may not be efficient enough for many people having tons of questions, typing slowly. So I'd like to invite all of you to join a meeting.
How: send me your email address
or phone number in 悄悄话
I'll send you email and call you back.
When: TBD
Note: dinner and tea will be served without charges for the meeting.
=================================================
Jesus said: " 你们祈求,就给你们;寻找,就寻见;叩门,就给你们开门。"
最初由 wushuren 发布
信,既然是钥匙,那么您就等于证明了我说的神要求的是信是手段,而不是结果。
而我认为善恰恰是结果,神要求的信,实际上是手段。为此,有哪个宗教要求人不信?
神和自然性和哲理性的善是充分必要条件。迷和悟仅有一步之遥。那么谁来告诉哪些是自以为是的善?那些不信基督教的人所做出的善,全是要被否定的吗?
善是一种自然性的善才是真正的善,而不是为了功利而强行努力做出来的,变成好像呼吸,吃饭和睡觉类似的东东。孩子做出的善就是最接近这种状态的,而不是为了功利。
我看到过那样的基督徒,也看到过那样的其他教徒。我在那一刻,感到的是他们同一教的兄弟姐妹。只不过他们自己不知道而已。