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"government's faults are from its people."

Unbelievable! I literally read this line three times for not believing my eyes and for trying to find if I have missed something, or there's a typo something.

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I do not question your intelligence, but I do question about your diligence for you only have read it three times.

Government, for evil or for good, is chosen by its people who have the power to change the way goverment behaves or change the government itself. As a Chinese citizen, you have your own right to do so, either by ballot or by bullet or some other means, which you apparently did not do. The American people chose to get rid of British government because of intoerable oppression by the British government. The black chose to end racial segregation in the US by forcing the goverment to mend its ways.

How about we the Chinese? Did you stand up and fight like the courageous young man who stood in front of the column of tanks in Beijing in 1989? Would you rather stand up and speak up and face the danger of being jailed than keep silent about wrongs by a government. If you talk about democracy, it is about people power and it is about your standing up ending the wrongs of a government or the government.

Have you carried any guilt llike me? I fought in 1989, but when I looked at the face of death, I ran away. Or do you have the courage to admit your guilt, even before your god?

Government's faults are from its people, if you choose not to fight.
 
"Democracy is an illusion. Religion, in no offending terms, is like sex."

After seeing the unbelievable line "government's faults are from its people." your above line does not surprise me any more. I think you are one of those people I would characterize (for lack of better term) "just don't get it". Take it easy, you might change some of your views when you get older, say 20 years older...:) [/B][/QUOTE]


Yokel, this time I question your intelligence.


"Religion is like sex" is a statement made by many others. Religon invovles love, compassion, inter-course, struggle, devotion and union. It is uplifting, gratifying and rewarding. Without that, it would be degrading. This should be said by the farmer (Nongmingong) not me. Passion is not adquate, Yokel, sit down and read and become enlightened, otherwises, life would be full of surprises.
 
启示录解读。

西方的王会联合犹太人,但最后会来进攻犹太人。西方的王和大巴比伦都是迫害犹太人和基督信徒的。犹太复国已经完成,但犹太人并没有归附于天主教和现有的基督教,那么一定是有什么事情没有完成。那就是新的宗教改革,能够涵盖一切真理正义和生命的光的宗教改革,而不是狭隘地推行自己的这一教。这将是由人发动的,而不是由先知发动的。以上帝的名,以道路真理和生命中的光的名,同流而不归一,多元化,天下人皆兄弟姐妹。

西方是有基督教和天主教传统的,他们很清楚圣经启示录的内容,他们能成为敌基督是个有很有趣的问题。如果上帝再来以肉身和显现基督徒被升空的镜头,普通人只会拜倒在上帝的脚下,怎么也不可能成为敌基督,更不用说是西方国家这样有上帝信仰传统的国家了。那么基督再来肯定会采用一种人们认不出来的方式。任何自称是基督和高于耶稣的人形,都不可能是真的。

西方的王是欧洲国家,大巴比伦是美国,大巴比伦是大都市的意思,不一定是中东的城市。启示录中的大淫妇是指自由女神像,那是这个世界上最大号的女人雕塑,被冠以自由的名,她和地上的君王行淫的意义我们可以猜到。东方的王是阿拉伯国家,以伊朗为首。北方的王是指俄罗斯为首的国家,南方的王是指以埃及为首的非洲国家,而中国历来号称中央之国,虽然地处东方,不是东方的王。中国历来和以色列保持着友好关系。

人类作为伟大的万能播下的文明的种子,收获的季节应该快到了,汇集科学,文明,自由,民主,多元化,哲理形成的一股强大的力量才是耶稣再来的载体,而不是某个号称耶稣的人形,道路真理和生命之光将照耀整个地球,这就是天国的降临,地球将成为一个国家。因为有不服气和辨认不出的人,为此将有人类最后的一场大战。失败者将永远被钉在耻辱柱上,好像地狱的火的煎熬。这失败的命运似乎已经注定,可他们还是要不服气和辨认不出。

(目前为止,只当是猜测)
 
如果人类文明达到打破了时空的界限,死不过就是一个瞬间和过程,可以无限地被复制和重复的过程,那么任何历史时空的善者和恶者都永远被煎熬和受到天堂的礼赞,因为人永远也无法死去,永远都可以被重复和显现出来,因为时空界限不存在了。地狱和天堂的区别也就在一念之间。
 
最初由 wushuren 发布
如果人类文明达到打破了时空的界限,死不过就是一个瞬间和过程,可以无限地被复制和重复的过程,那么任何历史时空的善者和恶者都永远被煎熬和受到天堂的礼赞,因为人永远也无法死去,永远都可以被重复和显现出来,因为时空界限不存在了。地狱和天堂的区别也就在一念之间。

BEFORE 人类文明打破了时空的界限,死不过就是一个瞬间和过程.死可以无限地被复制和重复, then it is not 死, sleep mighgt be a better description.

任何历史时空的善者和恶者都永远被煎熬和受到天堂的礼赞,因为人永远也无法死去. Then your god would be busy sorting out who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. How can one go? by train? bus? bicycle? walk? spaceship? you have to find a way to send your passengers. Better the same way. otherwise, the rich will still enjoy a more comfortable ride than the poor.

任何历史时空的善者和恶者都永远被煎熬和受到天堂的礼赞,因为人永远也无法死去. This is kind of cruel as you only offer half of the solution. If you do not die, you still grow old and old. Then your afterworld is full of old fragile people. You should provide some exlixir for people to stay young along with Viagara. Also how do you feed so many dead-alive people?

恶者does not care as they do not see the 善者 as they live separately. I am wondering if god allows 善者 to wear clothes in heaven or not.恶者 also may not care because if in the age when time and space have no limit, 恶者 may have fireproof clothing avaialbe to ward off the fire in hell.

Revive the dead please. I want to see the ancient beauties of China coming back to life.

Keep dreaming.
 
最初由 roaring mouse 发布


BEFORE 人类文明打破了时空的界限,死不过就是一个瞬间和过程.死可以无限地被复制和重复, then it is not 死, sleep mighgt be a better description.

任何历史时空的善者和恶者都永远被煎熬和受到天堂的礼赞,因为人永远也无法死去. Then your god would be busy sorting out who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. How can one go? by train? bus? bicycle? walk? spaceship? you have to find a way to send your passengers. Better the same way. otherwise, the rich will still enjoy a more comfortable ride than the poor.

任何历史时空的善者和恶者都永远被煎熬和受到天堂的礼赞,因为人永远也无法死去. This is kind of cruel as you only offer half of the solution. If you do not die, you still grow old and old. Then your afterworld is full of old fragile people. You should provide some exlixir for people to stay young along with Viagara. Also how do you feed so many dead-alive people?

恶者does not care as they do not see the 善者 as they live separately. I am wondering if god allows 善者 to wear clothes in heaven or not.恶者 also may not care because if in the age when time and space have no limit, 恶者 may have fireproof clothing avaialbe to ward off the fire in hell.

Revive the dead please. I want to see the ancient beauties of China coming back to life.

Keep dreaming.

您好像没有理解我说的话,任何人都是生活在自己的时空内的,也是被限制在自己的时空之内的。那么只要存在过了,他就不会消失,他的善和他的恶都是他自己造成的。在被打破的时空界限内,任何恶和善都在那里,本身就是惩罚和褒奖。善恶就在于一念之间,那么天堂和地狱也只在一念之间。否则真的要把上帝忙坏了,这里面可能有我们或者古人无法理解的机制存在。否则上帝为什么不能把恶人永远消失掉作为惩罚,而一定要用地狱来吓唬人和折磨人。因为那个人在历史时空中存在过了,那就消失不了,这是个规则,除非整个世界毁灭,时间不再存在。


发挥一下想象力,是可以被允许的。
 
这也是为什么佛教总说,善恶只在一念之间。
 
最初由 wushuren 发布


您好像没有理解我说的话,任何人都是生活在自己的时空内的,也是被限制在自己的时空之内的。那么只要存在过了,他就不会消失,他的善和他的恶都是他自己造成的。在被打破的时空界限内,任何恶和善都在那里,本身就是惩罚和褒奖。善恶就在于一念之间,那么天堂和地狱也只在一念之间。否则真的要把上帝忙坏了,这里面可能有我们或者古人无法理解的机制存在。否则上帝为什么不能把恶人永远消失掉作为惩罚,而一定要用地狱来吓唬人和折磨人。因为那个人在历史时空中存在过了,那就消失不了,这是个规则,除非整个世界毁灭,时间不再存在。


发挥一下想象力,是可以被允许的。

除非整个世界毁灭,时间不再存在. Even the world is nil, time and space still exist.
那么天堂和地狱也只在一念之间. If your 一念之间 means a fleeting second of a thought, hell and heaven would make no difference to lots of folks like me.If your 一念之间 means the crepice between 天堂和地狱, lots of folks also would not care.
I have no imagination. If I imagine too much, the whole earth would be stuck in the black hole of god.
这里面可能有我们或者古人无法理解的机制存在. that is the classic of your folks. we ordinary folks cannot comprehend this or that, then what is the point of believing. Seeing is believing. I have not seen yet.
 
最初由 wushuren 发布
这也是为什么佛教总说,善恶只在一念之间。

do not insult my budda god. by the teachings of your christians, we believe in budda means we believe in idols. that is punishable for hell.
 
最初由 roaring mouse 发布


do not insult my budda god. by the teachings of your christians, we believe in budda means we believe in idols. that is punishable for hell.

let us make it to 1000 posts and then stop and see if the world still moves around the sun.
 
最初由 roaring mouse 发布


do not insult my budda god. by the teachings of your christians, we believe in budda means we believe in idols. that is punishable for hell.

至少我知道佛教中的禅宗,开悟的故事,有一个和尚说得很经典,有人问他佛经上是佛说的还是魔说的,那和尚说“那都是魔说的。”不立文字直指人心,拜的那不是偶像,那是老师和前辈,当然佛教中确实有偶像崇拜存在,这个是不能否认的,道教也有这现象。

我自己读圣经的解释和现有基督教天主教的主流解释有些不同。这也是为什么在我的解释中,我要按照耶稣的旨意把无处不在的道路真理和生命中的光和耶稣等同起来。而且我不认为信了现有的基督教和天主教就一定可以进天堂的。那只是一个入门,这都可以在圣经中找到原话作为注释。
 
最初由 roaring mouse 发布


除非整个世界毁灭,时间不再存在. Even the world is nil, time and space still exist.
那么天堂和地狱也只在一念之间. If your 一念之间 means a fleeting second of a thought, hell and heaven would make no difference to lots of folks like me.If your 一念之间 means the crepice between 天堂和地狱, lots of folks also would not care.
I have no imagination. If I imagine too much, the whole earth would be stuck in the black hole of god.
这里面可能有我们或者古人无法理解的机制存在. that is the classic of your folks. we ordinary folks cannot comprehend this or that, then what is the point of believing. Seeing is believing. I have not seen yet.

我所说的世界是指整个宇宙,包括一切的时间和空间。也许要从大爆炸那一个点算起。

您如果熟悉佛经的故事,就明白我说的善恶之在一念之间,天堂和地狱也只在一念之间是什么意思了。

这个世界当然总是有我们无法理解的机制存在,既然无法理解,那为什么需要信仰?
信仰是什么?您可以去翻我前面的读书笔记,我读那个印度大师的《东方的智慧》所得出的笔记和心得。
 
最初由 wushuren 发布


至少我知道佛教中的禅宗,开悟的故事,有一个和尚说得很经典,有人问他佛经上是佛说的还是魔说的,那和尚说“那都是魔说的。”不立文字直指人心,拜的那不是偶像,那是老师和前辈,当然佛教中确实有偶像崇拜存在,这个是不能否认的,道教也有这现象。

我自己读圣经的解释和现有基督教天主教的主流解释有些不同。这也是为什么在我的解释中,我要按照耶稣的旨意把无处不在的道路真理和生命中的光和耶稣等同起来。而且我不认为信了现有的基督教和天主教就一定可以进天堂的。那只是一个入门,这都可以在圣经中找到原话作为注释。

那只是一个入门? can you tell which side the entrance is? N? E? W? S? I guess there should be two entracnes, one for heaven and one for hell. No two would be two few for so many people to pass through. I like your idea. If people do not die, there would be no need for graveyards, leaving more than for live people.
Which verison of Bible do you read? Mine is King James version, smuggled into China in late 80s.
 
最初由 wushuren 发布


我所说的世界是指整个宇宙,包括一切的时间和空间。也许要从大爆炸那一个点算起。

您如果熟悉佛经的故事,就明白我说的善恶之在一念之间,天堂和地狱也只在一念之间是什么意思了。

这个世界当然总是有我们无法理解的机制存在,既然无法理解,那为什么需要信仰?
信仰是什么?您可以去翻我前面的读书笔记,我读那个印度大师的《东方的智慧》所得出的笔记和心得。

does your 宇宙 inlcude "universe to be." I mean the one beyond the current expanding limit of the universe. It seems to me your god is still busy creating worlds in the far outer space.

大爆炸? that is before god or god might be the one setting off the big bang. You do not sound like a christian to me. You seem to be a religous son of bitch, mixing science, buddism etc. so u r a fake believer, even more dangerous than me atheist
 
最初由 roaring mouse 发布


does your 宇宙 inlcude "universe to be." I mean the one beyond the current expanding limit of the universe. It seems to me your god is still busy creating worlds in the far outer space.

大爆炸? that is before god or god might be the one setting off the big bang. You do not sound like a christian to me. You seem to be a religous son of bitch, mixing science, buddism etc. so u r a fake believer, even more dangerous than me atheist

从历史来看,宗教也是发展的,现在科学有了关于大爆炸的学说,那么自然可以加入猜想,我们自己不可能超越我们所处的时间和空间的。在这个爆炸极限以外的事情,我不知道,您如果知道的话可以告诉我一下,当然您也可以给出一个猜想,这都是可以的。

至于我自己是什么,是真是假,那并不重要,你如果认为我是假的,我并没有强求你相信我。我始终在强调我是一个普通的人,我不过是在猜测,和与人交流看法。人类文明经过上万年上千年的发展,得出了一个原理,那就是言论自由,宗教自由,几百年前基督教因为一些不同的解释而脱离了天主教。人们的猜测和说法当然可能是错的,但也决不会希望人类丢弃由血的代价得出的教训和经验,从而产生倒退。
 
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