基督教是强国之本

[CHRIS88]

Well, you do not know this. How do you know that mass is not conserved? It is better for you not to know this since many people may be able to realize that you are cheating around.

嗯，好雪兄似乎不敢回答我的问题啊？

 

[nicesnow]

Do I need to? You claimed that mass is not conserved. Then show your proof here and let people see if it is right.

嗯，好雪兄似乎不敢回答我的问题啊？

 

[CHRIS88]

Do I need to? You claimed that mass is not conserved. Then show your proof here and let people see if it is right.

呵呵，无论是不敢还是不必，反正好雪兄是定下主意不回答在下的这个问题了，是吗？如果答案是肯定的，我们再继续。

 

[nicesnow]

I dare to say that the stories of Jesus are fake. I do not dare to tell you the definition of energy. Does it sound funny?

Claim something scientific without proof. Is it a lie?

呵呵，无论是不敢还是不必，反正好雪兄是定下主意不回答在下的这个问题了，是吗？如果答案是肯定的，我们再继续。

 

[nicesnow]

我想这里说的前生今生来生永生，所指并非『来于尘土，归于尘土』的肉体。

物质不灭定律和其他一切科学定律一样只是适用于一定的范围。比如说，爱因斯坦的质能转化，其实早就已经挑战物质不灭定理了。

最近流行的Big Bang理论也是在说整个宇宙的最初来源是虚无 - 根据圣经记载，正是神于虚无中创造了世界和其间的我们。

Big Bang不过是个时髦的理论而已。这类的披上了科学外衣的理论，和进化论一样，并没有可重复的证据，也不可能得到实验验证，从本质上讲是不科学的，和圣经所揭示的真理更无法相比，时髦一段时间也就是了。

The same guy tried to use Big Bang. In one day he dropped it. It is really quick to be brainwashed.

 

[aruba]

1. a scientist is brilliant to you but may not be brilliant to others. do you know that?
2. how do you know he does not know a lot about science? he may know much more than what you do.
3. From the language you used in your talk, I have to tell you what I feel about you: a 井底之蛙

Big bang is one theory in science. A lot of brilliant scientists are working on it. It could be wrong. But a guy like you who does not know a lot about science may not be the right person to make any conclusion about it now before they figure it out.

 

[calvinwong2008]

的确，神是唯一的。正因为如此，人认识神的途径也是唯一的，那就是神所指示的道路，就是主耶稣基督。

神是唯一的. 神, 不分宗教, 不分種族, 不分男女, 不分國家, 不分政黨, 不分東西南北....

世上有萬萬億億的人, 每個都是獨立的個體, 但不管甚麽人, 透過哪些人, 哪種宗教, 哪件事情, 得承蒙神的恩德和領略真理, 他們能認識神的途徑是一樣的, 也是唯一的, 那就是人的內心裹....

心中有神, 行之唯心, 神在心中. !!

 

[nicesnow]

1. a scientist is brilliant to you but may not be brilliant to others. do you know that?

True.

2. how do you know he does not know a lot about science? he may know much more than what you do.

Read his posts about science here and you will know how brilliant this guy is for you. Use your 1 here: he is not brilliant for me at all. If you agree with what he said, you will be so brilliant as he is in your sense.

3. From the language you used in your talk, I have to tell you what I feel about you: a 井底之蛙

Maybe. Do I care how you feel about me? Who are you in the first place?????
BTW, the language I have used here about science is pretty standard and basic.

Why do not you show some brilliance of yours here to join the discussion?

 

[CHRIS88]

Big Bang不过是个时髦的理论而已。这类的披上了科学外衣的理论，和进化论一样，并没有可重复的证据，也不可能得到实验验证，从本质上讲是不科学的，和圣经所揭示的真理更无法相比，时髦一段时间也就是了。

The same guy tried to use Big Bang. In one day he dropped it. It is really quick to be brainwashed.

打一个不太好地比喻吧：

在发案时，有人抓拍了一张照片。照片隐隐约约指向某个关键细节。审案时，律师在摆出其他证据后说，看，那张照片也指向同样的事实。过后，对方的律师企图以那张模糊的照片作为重建发案现场的唯一根据。这时，那位首先拿出照片当旁证的律师又说，那只是一张在大雾的傍晚拍摄的照片而已，我们不能把它作为是主要的更不用说唯一的根据。

 

[CanChn]

The same guy tried to use Big Bang. In one day he dropped it. It is really quick to be brainwashed.

如果你有时间翻翻以前的帖子，你就会知道这种事对于这位班竹先生来说已是小菜一碟了。我早已见怪不怪了，也不肖于与其争论了。
科学从来与宗教是在两股道上跑得车，科学从来不会用宗教来证明自己的正确与否。宗教却总是把科学当作一件华丽的外衣，时不时地用来把自己打扮一下，却不知无论如何遮掩，都会露出那个“小”来。
科学从来都不认为其结论是绝对真理。科学总是从假定，假说出发，经过科学家们的探索和证明而得到相对真理，在某个时期，总有它的局限性。但科学是不断发展进步的，是不断完善的。
而宗教，以基督教为例，以一本2000年前的传说为唯一真理，虽然其内容早已为科学证明为荒谬，却还拿科学的大旗做虎皮，妄图给自己脸上贴金。
其实，挑明了说，教会就是一个business,说得高尚一点，就如同心理医生一样，给一些灵魂无所寄托的人们一个获得安慰的地方，仅此而已！
所以，对于班竹的言论，也就由他去吧！

 

[nicesnow]

Totally agree.
拿科学的大旗做虎皮，妄图给自己脸上贴金<=science makes it looking bad in most cases.
挑明了说，教会就是一个business<= one of the best business models

如果你有时间翻翻以前的帖子，你就会知道这种事对于这位班竹先生来说已是小菜一碟了。我早已见怪不怪了，也不肖于与其争论了。
科学从来与宗教是在两股道上跑得车，科学从来不会用宗教来证明自己的正确与否。宗教却总是把科学当作一件华丽的外衣，时不时地用来把自己打扮一下，却不知无论如何遮掩，都会露出那个“小”来。
科学从来都不认为其结论是绝对真理。科学总是从假定，假说出发，经过科学家们的探索和证明而得到相对真理，在某个时期，总有它的局限性。但科学是不断发展进步的，是不断完善的。
而宗教，以基督教为例，以一本2000年前的传说为唯一真理，虽然其内容早已为科学证明为荒谬，却还拿科学的大旗做虎皮，妄图给自己脸上贴金。
其实，挑明了说，教会就是一个business,说得高尚一点，就如同心理医生一样，给一些灵魂无所寄托的人们一个获得安慰的地方，仅此而已！
所以，对于班竹的言论，也就由他去吧！

 

[nicesnow]

You are so devoted to your religion that you do not think about things in a logic way. That's the problem of most believers.

打一个不太好地比喻吧：

在发案时，有人抓拍了一张照片。照片隐隐约约指向某个关键细节。审案时，律师在摆出其他证据后说，看，那张照片也指向同样的事实。过后，对方的律师企图以那张模糊的照片作为重建发案现场的唯一根据。这时，那位首先拿出照片当旁证的律师又说，那只是一张在大雾的傍晚拍摄的照片而已，我们不能把它作为是主要的更不用说唯一的根据。

 

[nicesnow]

Two protons stuck together have less mass than two single separate protons!
When the protons are forced together, this extra mass is released ... as energy! Typically this amounts to about 0.7% of the total mass, converted to an amount of energy predictable using the formula

.

Is this your proof from this link for that mass is not conserved?

If the released energy is Er, its mass is Er/c2. Adding it back to the total mass of two protons and you will find the total mass is still conserved before and after the merge because energy is conserved. Surprise? Are you thinking to use modern physics to explain the concept of classic physics, are not you? Do not fool yourself and other people in your church with lies.

另外，好雪兄不妨参考下面这个链接回答：

http://www.worsleyschool.net/science/files/emc2/emc2.html

 

[CHRIS88]

Do not fool yourself and other people in your church with lies.

好雪兄的确应该学习一下最基本的对人的尊重了。要知道自以为是的人是很难得到别人的尊敬的。

如果好雪兄希望好好讨论，我希望你至少能做到：
1）先读懂我的问题；
2）诚实回答；不要不懂装懂；
3）讨论问题，不要讨论人。

谢谢。

 

[CanChn]

好雪兄的确应该学习一下最基本的对人的尊重了。要知道自以为是的人是很难得到别人的尊敬的。

如果好雪兄希望好好讨论，我希望你至少能做到：
1）先读懂我的问题；
2）诚实回答；不要不懂装懂；
3）讨论问题，不要讨论人。

谢谢。

请先看看自己是否做到了以上三点。随口就说别人自以为是的人自己首先就有自以为是的嫌疑。