this guy does make a point

好,这就回到一个很基本的问题了。

请问,你认为我们所见的物资宇宙是自有永有的吗?
I know where you are going.
your questions have been raised countless times and countlessly times it suggests nothing about if there is a god who caused it.
 
好,这就回到一个很基本的问题了。

请问,你认为我们所见的物资宇宙是自有永有的吗?

这个似乎颇废思量。那么换个问题吧。你认为地球上的生物是自有永有的吗?
 
your questions have been raised countless times and countlessly times it suggests nothing about if there is a god.

你也许问了自己无数遍,但这是我第一次问你,对吧?自己一个人无法理清思路,我们尝试讨论一下也许有帮助啊?
 
你也许问了自己无数遍,但这是我第一次问你,对吧?自己一个人无法理清思路,我们尝试讨论一下也许有帮助啊?
it's joke you 'd believe that a few short paragraphs on this forum would clarify if the universe has a beginning . Numerous books and articles have been written on this subject about it. There is a book if you want to read it. Until you accept the earth is more than 6000 year old, there isn't really much to talk about that'd make any sense.
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http://www.amazon.com/The-Counter-C...F8&qid=1400688407&sr=8-2&keywords=creationism
 
当扁鹊说蔡桓公身体有疾的时候,不是在诅咒他,而是要救他。

而看到别人处于危险,却不提醒,就是尊重了吗?
为什么当老飞说你有病时,神父却说老飞是人身攻击呢?怎么信了主的人会如此不正常?
 
it's joke you 'd believe that a few short paragraphs on this forum would clarify if the universe has a beginning . Numerous books and articles have been written on this subject about it. There is a book if you want to read it. Until you accept the earth is more than 6000 year old, there isn't really much to talk about that'd make any sense.
41ggF%2BCOpyL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/The-Counter-Creationism-Handbook-Mark-Isaak/dp/0520249267/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1400688407&sr=8-2&keywords=creationism

既然你无意在这里讨论,为什么要在这讨论坛开版呢?

难道你不觉得企图用人有限的聪明才智来挑战无限的上帝才充满了人的想象力吗?:)

他是谁?

《圣经》是神默示的

中国人还应了解的真相
 
他是谁?


他不是哲学家,他甚至没有一点学历,但是许多令人崇敬的大思想家拜倒在他脚下:奥古斯丁、马丁.路德、培根、帕斯卡尔、孟德斯鸠、黑格尔、汤因比等等  

他不是科学家,他只是一个木匠的儿子,但是世上一些最著名的科学家是他的信徒:开普勒、伽利略、牛顿、拉法第 、焦耳 、门德尔 、巴斯德、辛普森 、等等。  

他不是艺术家,他淳朴的不能再淳朴,但是一大批出类拔萃的文学艺术家追随他:米开朗基儸、达芬奇、儸丹、巴赫、贝多芬、亨德尔、雨果、托尔斯泰、托斯妥耶夫斯基等。

他不是政治家,然而在人类政治史上为人类政治转型起到关键性推动作用的最伟大的政治家们多是他的信徒:君司坦丁大帝、维多利亚女王、兰顿主教、华盛顿总统、林肯总统、马丁.路德.金牧师等。

历史上从没有一个人能和他相提并论。他没用过仆人,人们却称他为「主」;他没学位,人们却称他为师;他没赠药,人们却称他为医;他没有一兵一卒,君王却惧怕他;他没动过刀枪,却以爱征服世界;他死后被埋葬,可到今天,他依然活着。

当年他一生的活动范围局限在中东一偶,今天他的名字却无远弗届;他在地球上的生命只有短短的大约33年,他对人类的影响却直到今天并必将持续到世界的末了。和他对人类的影响相比,所有君王将相、伟人豪杰、学者富商、先知圣人、佛祖菩萨的财富才识和丰功伟绩合起来仍象烈日下的小小烛光一样微不足道。
 
既然你无意在这里讨论,为什么要在这讨论坛开版呢?

难道你不觉得企图用人有限的聪明才智来挑战无限的上帝才充满了人的想象力吗?:)

他是谁?

《圣经》是神默示的

中国人还应了解的真相
it is well within my right to open a thread to my own liking. It'd be very naïve to think that every thread is for the purpose of LOGIC discussion. I do not need permission from anyone not even your god to tell me what I am supposed to do for my pleasure. As long as there are religionists now and then pop up spreading gospels of lies, I 'd do my part too. I guess it's about balance and I happen to have time too.

again, god doesn't exist. so your statement about human challenging god doesn't apply and it does sound laughable to an atheist though...
 
it is well within my right to open a thread to my own liking. It'd be very naïve to think that every thread is for the purpose of LOGIC discussion. I do not need permission from anyone not even your god to tell me what I am supposed to do for my pleasure. As long as there are religionists now and then pop up spreading gospels of lies, I 'd do my part too. I guess it's about balance and I happen to have time too.

again, god doesn't exist. so your statement about human challenging god doesn't apply and it does sound laughable to an atheist though...

The Champion of Atheism :)
 
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