ClubLink wins Kanata golf course appeal, dealing residents legal blow

[CFC250]

The Ontario judges obviously can't void the entire 40% agreement. Otherwise, they would do it based on Clublink request.

If the section 5(4) and 9 of the 1981 agreement are void, then, section 11 of Clublink-Assumption-Agreement should kick in. The land shall be open space land. What do you think?

https://ourkanatagreenspace.ca/kanata/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Clublink-Assumption-Agreement.pdf

除了有人买下球场继续经营，目前我看不到tool box里还有什么工具可以阻止clublink申请rezone..当然还有省府干预，但是法官void那两条的理由是city creates interests in the land..好像是这么写的。
I am a layman,my view doesn't count

 

[billwanhua]

你这算狡辩

海洋法系为什么判例重要，因为一旦形成判例以后要改就很难，但有没有例外呢，那当然有了，不过能因为少数例外而否定判例重要吗

"It is a central principle of law: Courts are supposed to follow earlier decisions – precedent – to resolve current disputes. But it’s inevitable that sometimes, the precedent has to go, and a court has to overrule another court, or even its own decision from an earlier case."

美国最高法院多次推翻自己的判决，法律是死的，人是活的，不同法官对法律理解也不一样，历史也在进步，一百年前奴隶制和禁止堕胎禁止同性恋都是不可动摇的根本。
如果拿100年前的案例来作为判例，现代的很多案子都会错判。你当今社会找不到几个会按100年前的案例去判，100年钱很多抢东西的绞刑，现在你能把那个作为判例？

 

[小狗子]

一句话。来卡南吧。

 

[gocanoeing]

White did caution that the appeal court ruling “may” affect other aspects of the agreement.
If ClubLink, the city and other parties such as the Kanata Greenspace Protection Coalition (KGPC) also listed in the action can’t come to a consensus on how the rest of the agreement plays out from here, the matter could be remitted to the original Justice Labrosse.

这个news上说的是多于2方。 kanata Greenspace Protection Coalition 也参与了， 可能还有其他的parties.

White是市政府的法律顾问，他的话只能由他自己去解释了

不过很清楚的是打这个官司的是高球场业主和市政府两方

另外我读了该新闻之后觉得那个40%绿地的条款似乎也有危险
"Specifically, the appeal court found fault with Labrosse’s interpretation of the land conveyance aspects of the agreement and ruled that those provisions couldn’t be upheld 40 years on from the original deal."
关键是those provisions是指什么

 

[gocanoeing]

"It is a central principle of law: Courts are supposed to follow earlier decisions – precedent – to resolve current disputes. But it’s inevitable that sometimes, the precedent has to go, and a court has to overrule another court, or even its own decision from an earlier case."

美国最高法院多次推翻自己的判决，法律是死的，人是活的，不同法官对法律理解也不一样，历史也在进步，一百年前奴隶制和禁止堕胎禁止同性恋都是不可动摇的根本

但还是无法因为少数例外而否定判例很重要啊

 

[uglyducking]

这都是反应比较快的。。

趁着他们反应快贱卖，赶紧搬到坎北中国湖来吧

 

[tw]

White是市政府的法律顾问，他的话只能由他自己去解释了

不过很清楚的是打这个官司的是高球场业主和市政府两方

另外我读了该新闻之后觉得那个40%绿地的条款似乎也有危险
"Specifically, the appeal court found fault with Labrosse’s interpretation of the land conveyance aspects of the agreement and ruled that those provisions couldn’t be upheld 40 years on from the original deal."
关键是those provisions是指什么

Those are the two void clauses...covey the land back to the city....I heard that some members of the community have contacted Clublink to buy golf course in the past, but Clublink didn't want to sell!!!

 

[gocanoeing]

Those are the two void clauses...covey the land back to the city....I heard that some members of the community have contacted Clublink to buy golf course in the past, but Clublink didn't want to sell!!!

高球场业主要建1500套房，假设一套房平均有30万的利润，总利润就是4.5亿，有人能出接近这个价去买下高球场吗

 

[CFC250]

Those are the two void clauses...covey the land back to the city....I heard that some members of the community have contacted Clublink to buy golf course in the past, but Clublink didn't want to sell!!!

我理解，即使void掉那两条，在rezone前也是要走按原用途出售这一步的。那两条说的是卖不出去，地市里收回，市里不收，才允许变更用途。

 

[tw]

高球场业主要建1500套房，假设一套房平均有30万的利润，总利润就是4.5亿，有人能出接近这个价去买下高球场吗

That is a golf course, golf course land. So far, it is still zoned as golf course land protected by 40% agreement. And the agreement clearly mentioned that the clublink should first try to sell....What the price they can sell is the clublink problem......

 

[CFC250]

高球场业主要建1500套房，假设一套房平均有30万的利润，总利润就是4.5亿，有人能出接近这个价去买下高球场吗

球场的value没那么高。stonebridge的球场就是6百万。

 

[gocanoeing]

That is a golf course, golf course land. So far, it is still zoned as golf course land protected by 40% agreement. And the agreement clearly mentioned that the clublink should first try to sell....What the price they can sell is the clublink problem......

球场的value没那么高。stonebridge的球场就是6百万。

所以有人想用高球场的价格买下来无法谈成，因为高球场业主看到有多挣几十倍利润的潜力，当然要多挣这几十倍的利润也要花很多力气，从一个非地产专业的角度看，打个23折拿现金走人大概也是可能的

 

[ert0000]

所以有人想用高球场的价格买下来无法谈成，因为高球场业主看到有多挣几十倍利润的潜力，当然要多挣这几十倍的利润也要花很多力气，从一个非地产专业的角度看，打个23折拿现金走人大概也是可能的

这就叫非法更改土地用途，放在任何一个国家，都会引发社会动乱和群体事件的。

 

[ert0000]

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小狗子如果想捡个漏，抄底GOLF，小心啊，别被愤怒的原住户扔砖头砸玻璃啊

 

[Anakin]

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