2010 National Capital Region's Top Empolyers

只有极少数能力强的人在政府部门工作(美国也一样)。因为公务员,绝大多数都收入不高,一般起薪很低,每年工资升得也很少,到退休时,工资也不一定能赶上公司里的职员。福利确实不错,但是,让你降低一半薪水,给你同样福利,你也不一定愿意,更不会有人眼红你。

Maybe, two third is more realistic.
 
加拿大联邦政府的公务员工资,到底有多低?

我原来的同事,有几个最近一、两年去政府工作了。听他们说,同等学历、工作经历等条件下,公务员的工资略低些。但是,从他们说话的口气中,感觉差别不是那么悬殊。

但是,他们有吸引人的福利和退休金。听说,如果你能混上个30多年的工龄,退休金可以拿到工资的75%。

有人羡慕一点都不奇怪:工资略低点,可是假日比你多、福利比你好啊,将来养老金比你多啊。

Max. 70% if you have 35 y service. If less than 35, years times 2%.
 
薪水倒也没有降一半,减去福利加上pension,大致上也差不多,尤其是平均到per hour。但是如果有人给你同样的薪水,让你呆在一间空屋子里,啥也不干,不许上网,也不准睡觉,一天8小时,你干吗?反正我不干。

Why do that way? I do not understand. Government encourges employees to try their best. Only lazy-stupid people will stay in office and do nothing.
 
明白了。谢谢!我不会眼红了。嘿 (68%是最高5年的平均工资,这个可不低了。)

那么,他们假日总共多少天,每年的假期几周?

有一点,恐怕是优越性,工作总体上是稳定的。有CUPE那个黑社会的保护啊。


CUPE is not so helpful.

3 wks when less than 8(?) years, 4 wks for 8-17 yrs, 5 wks for 18-25 and the a bit more complicated after 25. (I am not positive on the time range but shoudl close enough).
 
中国人加入的多半是pipsc。

Nothingh to with race or original countries. All employees have to join by law (the only choice is that you can pay this portion money to other charitable organisations instead of the union. Chinese in PIPSC is misleading.
 
Yes, but you will need to pay 10 times (maybe twice) of your effort if you are a Chinese because language disadvantage. Just as in China, university graduates from countryside need to pay much more effort to achieve the same as those from city. Not sure if you agree.

当然,在哪里干都一样。如果想干得出色,总得付出努力。

不过,十倍于他人的努力,我觉得有点夸张,一倍应该足够了。否则,有点问题了。

在政府工作的中国人,科学家、搞科研的人,比例有多高?(NRC、矿产资源等LAB里那些人。搞IT、电脑的-StaCan, CRA, etc不算在内。)这么多年,我还没有幸遇到一位大陆来的科学家。
 
CUPE is not so helpful.

3 wks when less than 8(?) years, 4 wks for 8-17 yrs, 5 wks for 18-25 and the a bit more complicated after 25. (I am not positive on the time range but shoudl close enough).

这不是很诱人。:p

How many government (bank) holidays do you have each year, by the way? 10 or 11 days?
 
they pay you for ...

they pay you ----
I having been working for 2 of them, both private, small companies. Enjoyed my time there.
Much better than a public sector, from which I quit without finishing my probation.
Don't be "眼红" for public sector, they pay you for wasting your life. - for you to grow more and more incompetent.


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When your grandchildren ask you what did you do before retire, I guess what you can say would be "I had been accumulating pension for many years, that's all about it". What a shame, even your 4 year old grandchild would not be proud of you.
 
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政府中有一些职位的薪酬还是很不错的。例如在Industry Canada的某些部门, 如果能干上5年,年收入达到8万以上并不是很困难的。当然,基本上这些部门会很忙,有Quota,但2年后你能选择每周在家工作1天,3年后你能选择每周在家工作2天。另外,政府还允许一年中你只工作11个月 (少拿1个月的工资)。如果你想离职,1年之内保留职位,3年之内保证能回原部门,5年之内保证能回政府。
政府是论资排辈,和你的业务能力没有太大关系。学历,工龄和职称是个人工资的参照系数。奖金是按级别发,干好干坏一个样,是大锅饭,搞平均主义。
 
政府中有一些职位的薪酬还是很不错的。例如在Industry Canada的某些部门, 如果能干上5年,年收入达到8万以上并不是很困难的。当然,基本上这些部门会很忙,有Quota,但2年后你能选择每周在家工作1天,3年后你能选择每周在家工作2天。另外,政府还允许一年中你只工作11个月 (少拿1个月的工资)。如果你想离职,1年之内保留职位,3年之内保证能回原部门,5年之内保证能回政府。
政府是论资排辈,和你的业务能力没有太大关系。学历,工龄和职称是个人工资的参照系数。奖金是按级别发,干好干坏一个样,是大锅饭,搞平均主义。

您这个前提、先决条件没有交代清楚吧?

一个高中生进了政府,干5年后能拿8万么?

那么,通常情况下:
- BS、MS、或者PhD学位的新毕业生进去了,干5年后分别能拿多少?
- BS、MS、或者PhD学位、有5年以上工作经验的人进去了,干5年后分别能拿多少?
 
薪水倒也没有降一半,减去福利加上pension,大致上也差不多,尤其是平均到per hour。但是如果有人给你同样的薪水,让你呆在一间空屋子里,啥也不干,不许上网,也不准睡觉,一天8小时,你干吗?反正我不干。

给钱呢
 
都知道Canada Post的收入好。就身边的例子,有两个邻居,都住着80多万的房子,很巧,他们都在Canada Post上班。
 
一个高中生 不进政府,干5年后能拿8万么?:)

您这个前提、先决条件没有交代清楚吧?

一个高中生进了政府,干5年后能拿8万么?

那么,通常情况下:
- BS、MS、或者PhD学位的新毕业生进去了,干5年后分别能拿多少?
- BS、MS、或者PhD学位、有5年以上工作经验的人进去了,干5年后分别能拿多少?
 
这不是很诱人。:p

How many government (bank) holidays do you have each year, by the way? 10 or 11 days?

3 weeks holiday for less than 7 years(including) 4 wks for 8-17 yrs, 5 wks for 18-25
5 days family related off
1 day volunteer day
1 day personel day
3 weeks sick day per year(could forward to next year)

if you want you could only work 10 month every year and they will average your whole salary to every month
 
3 weeks holiday for less than 7 years(including)
5 days family related off
1 day volunteer day
1 day personel day
3 weeks sick day per year(could forward to next year)

if you want you could only work 10 month every year and they will average your whole salary to every month

"3 weeks holiday for less than 7 years(including)" -- These are vacation days.

"
5 days family related off
1 day volunteer day
1 day personel day
3 weeks sick day per year(could forward to next year)" -- These are NOT holidays, which include Canada Day, Labour Day, Xmas, Boxing Day, etc. These are on top of the holidays, I guess.
 
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