这案子，加拿大移民官员/记者理不清了；你怎么看？（更新：移民部长特批，男孩将先持TRV来加拿大，然后办PR）

[lfe634]

當初夫妻申請移民沒報孩子，從年齡看來，可能當時是還沒出生，無法報。
所以當夫妻來加報到，移民官根據制度，說你若要再贊助親人來，必須先回國去。
這看來是一個制度的漏洞，身為小小移民官當時也無法做什麼。
但拿出這個 "我承諾不贊助親生孩子" 的怪文件讓人簽名，就埋下日後的糾結。
要是我就不讓他簽名，看有沒有別的制度能讓他們先留下來待查。審核個一歲孩子要多久啊，很快的事。

 

[lfe634]

人权大于法权
法律是为人服务的

沒錯。
但政府必須依法辦事。我覺得，可以讓父母再簽一個什麼文件，把原本的那個 "我承諾不帶孩子來" 合法地作廢，這樣一來就沒問題了。

 

[Anakin]

我明白你们在强调什么
他们当年的选择，其实是弱小在强势给的二个坏选择里无赖的一个选择，两个选择都不是他们想要的

我一打工仔（弱小）资本家（强势）要么我天天上班一年还没几个钱，要么去领半死不活的救命钱。这两个都不是我想要的。我想不上班天天玩儿一年还有200K以上收入，望给我指条明路

 

[西西妈]

也许多数人申请移民的时候家庭情况比较单纯。
但是我认识的人里，哪怕申请加拿大访问签证都要填写随行亲属和非随行子女。在移民材料申请中也有没有监护权的子女是否同时申请移民的选项。离婚没有监护权的孩子如果不同时申请移民就要声明放弃家庭成员移民的权利。这就是这家人在申明了有了移民申请材料中没有补充材料的孩子的情况后，移民官要求他们填的文件。当时如果他们选择不登录，就是回去补充孩子的材料，等候孩子的移民纸，这个肯定是要耽误时间的，但是不影响主申请人已经处理完的结果。
很显然就像楼上某位说的，5小时没有解释清楚厉害关系是不可能的。显然这家人短视，或者是从长计议了一个无赖方式，大人先选择放弃孩子作为家庭成员的团聚移民权，落地安顿好后再耍无赖玩感情牌挑战移民制度。
对不遵守游戏规则被罚的小朋友，有悲天悯人认为应该允许收养回来放弃监护权的孩子的，那么真的要去看看加拿大移民局对境外领养孩子的要求，有想领养自己兄弟姐妹家孩子移民来的不？梦想成真了不？呵呵，貌似这家人没有后路啊。

 

[TIFF]

不明白申请的时候为啥不把自己孩子填上。

 

[西西妈]

在移民审理过程中，结婚的，生子的补办材料的没少见，有评论说这家人显然是被ill informed，呵呵。

 

[bubble9]

法制还是人制？
看看加拿大会如何处理

 

[ccc]

在移民审理过程中，结婚的，生子的补办材料的没少见，有评论说这家人显然是被ill informed，呵呵。

four-year-old son ....
....

The couple’s troubles with Immigration, first reported by the Citizen a year ago, stem from failing to disclose they had a young son they intended to sponsor before they arrived in Canada in January 2013. The plan was to bring Daksh to Ottawa once they were settled.
....

After the couple landed in Montreal on Jan. 28, 2013, Canada Border Service agents began questioning them about their son back home. They were given two choices: State their intention of sponsoring the child but return to India while Immigration reviewed their application, or, then and there, sign a declaration form that they would never attempt to sponsor their son.

They said they agreed to the latter under duress and confusion, following five hours of questioning.

 

[西西妈]

four-year-old son ....
....

The couple’s troubles with Immigration, first reported by the Citizen a year ago, stem from failing to disclose they had a young son they intended to sponsor before they arrived in Canada in January 2013. The plan was to bring Daksh to Ottawa once they were settled.
....

After the couple landed in Montreal on Jan. 28, 2013, Canada Border Service agents began questioning them about their son back home. They were given two choices: State their intention of sponsoring the child but return to India while Immigration reviewed their application, or, then and there, sign a declaration form that they would never attempt to sponsor their son.

They said they agreed to the latter under duress and confusion, following five hours of questioning.

村长，我呵呵的不对吗

 

[ccc]

村长，我呵呵的不对吗

我在给你当助手，提供信息。

 

[西西妈]

我在给你当助手，提供信息。

噢，酱

吓坏……宝宝……（她妈）了

 

[Melody]

four-year-old son ....
....

The couple’s troubles with Immigration, first reported by the Citizen a year ago, stem from failing to disclose they had a young son they intended to sponsor before they arrived in Canada in January 2013. The plan was to bring Daksh to Ottawa once they were settled.
....

After the couple landed in Montreal on Jan. 28, 2013, Canada Border Service agents began questioning them about their son back home. They were given two choices: State their intention of sponsoring the child but return to India while Immigration reviewed their application, or, then and there, sign a declaration form that they would never attempt to sponsor their son.

They said they agreed to the latter under duress and confusion, following five hours of questioning.

村长，你玩啥呢？[emoji48]

 

[GYGY]

我不能理解这样的父母，为了不耽搁早那么一点点到更好的国家生活打拼，情愿幼小的孩子骨肉分离拿和孩子的天伦亲请做为工具来挑战法规侥幸来赌一把, 我作为母亲是无论如何都难以理解当初他们的决定狠心签那样的放弃文件....能技术移民的在母国都生活的不差说不定是收入不错的白领, 和孩子一起等待下很痛苦吗？其实无非就是想.......罢了，如果现在对他们说OK，那对多数遵纪守法诚实的人不公平。。。
我也是申请了移民后中途才怀孕生子的，没觉得法规有什么不公平的地方。。。觉得政策不公平不人道可以选择不来，加拿大的移民政策是为了自己的国家利益不是做慈善, 移民政策和难民政策制定的出发点本就不同。。。
当初父母放弃孩子的团聚权利，现在父母又高调地公开传播孩子的举标牌照片找同情孩子成为公众关注议论的对象，真为这孩子感到辛酸难过。。。

 

[某某]

村长，我呵呵的不对吗

村长想帮助你说明：四岁的孩子，应该最迟是2011年底出生的了。到2013年1月28日，有至少一年零一个月的时间可以补充材料。

 

[cvictor]

我一打工仔（弱小）资本家（强势）要么我天天上班一年还没几个钱，要么去领半死不活的救命钱。这两个都不是我想要的。我想不上班天天玩儿一年还有200K以上收入，望给我指条明路

睡着了，笑醒了