精华 移民应该知道的事情: 核污染的遗产, 知道为什么当地人不吃从河里钓的鱼吗?

自来水处理过;鱼在没有处理过的水里生活。



你吃那河里的鱼就等于喝没有处理过的水。



醒醒吧。:D



你以为自来水会去重金属,去核污染?你不妨普及一下自来水是如何处理的

至于生物污染,你吃的鱼难道不煮?
 
自来水处理过;鱼在没有处理过的水里生活。



你吃那河里的鱼就等于喝没有处理过的水。



醒醒吧。:D



对了,你的逻辑还有个问题

你吃超市的鱼,难道就等于喝超市的鱼缸里的水?
 
对了,你的逻辑还有个问题

你吃超市的鱼,难道就等于喝超市的鱼缸里的水?

你的逻辑更有问题。超市里的鱼是在他们的鱼缸里长那么大的么?
 
你以为自来水会去重金属,去核污染?你不妨普及一下自来水是如何处理的

至于生物污染,你吃的鱼难道不煮?

你肯定渥太华河水有核污染?
 
你以为自来水会去重金属,去核污染?你不妨普及一下自来水是如何处理的

至于生物污染,你吃的鱼难道不煮?




The City of Ottawa operates two treatment plants to supply drinking water – Lemieux Island Water Purification Plant (capacity: 400 ML/d; constructed 1931) and Britannia Water Purification Plant (capacity: 360 ML/d; constructed 1961). The source water for both plants is the Ottawa River. Both plants use identical water treatment processes and have undergone significant expansion and modernization over the years.
Raw water enters the treatment plants through large intake pipes that extend into the main flow of the river. The treatment process makes use of the “multiple barrier” principle. A series of treatment steps successively remove undesirable substances such as colour, suspended particles, algae, bacteria, and viruses from the water. The purification process in Ottawa consists of the following steps:
  •  coagulation (alum and sulphuric acid)
  •  flocculation (activated silica as a coagulant aid)
  •  sedimentation
  •  filtration (sand/anthracite)
  •  primary disinfection (sodium hypochlorite)
  •  pH correction (sodium hydroxide)
  •  secondary disinfection (chloramine)
  •  fluoridation (HFS)
During the final treatment step, fluoride is added for prevention of dental cavities, and chloramine (mixture of chlorine and ammonia) is added to preserve water quality as it travels through the vast water distribution system. The pH level is adjusted in order to minimize corrosion effects in the distribution system.

http://ottawa.ca/sites/ottawa.ca/files/2012_annual_report_britannia.pdf

Drinking Water - Regulations

Environmental Protection Agency sets Maximum Contaminant Levels (MCLs) for inorganic chemicals such as arsenic, cadmium and mercury and synthetic organic chemicals such as benzene (an industrial chemical), PCBs, atrazine (an herbicide). Municipal drinking water supplies cannot contain any microorganisms which may originate in fecal matter (e.g. Escherichia coli , a species of bacteria found in the guts of humans and other warm blooded animals) because fecal contamination may carry pathogens and spread disease. Recent concerns relating to drinking water include the presence of protozoan pathogens (e.g. Giardia) and the creation of cancer-causing chemicals (trihalomethanes, THMs) when drinking water is chlorinated.

Drinking Water Treatment

At its simplest level, drinking water treatment seeks to remove turbidity (solids) and pathogens. Additional treatment may be applied to deal with specific problems, e.g. hardness and chemical contamination. The description of drinking water treatment which follows addresses the turbidity and pathogen issues and includes five steps: coagulation, flocculation, sedimentation, filtration and disinfection. Each of these terms will be defined and described in the following pages.
DrinkingWaterTreatment_001.gif


Drinking Water Treatment - Coagulation

Solids are removed by sedimentation (settling) followed by filtration. Small particles are not removed efficiently by sedimentation because they settle too slowly; they may also pass through filters. They would be easier to remove if they clumped together (coagulated) to form larger particles, but they don't because they have a negative charge and repel each other (like two north poles of a magnet).

In coagulation, we add a chemical such as alum which produces positive charges to neutralize the negative charges on the particles. Then the particles can stick together, forming larger particles which are more easily removed.

The coagulation process involves the addition of the chemical (e.g. alum) and then a rapid mixing to dissolve the chemical and distribute it evenly throughout the water.

[MEDIA]http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module03/documents/Coagulation.swf[/MEDIA]

Drinking Water Treatment - Flocculation

Now that the particles have a neutral charge and can stick together. The water flows into a tank with paddles that provide slow mixing and bring the small particles together to form larger particles called flocs. Mixing is done quite slowly and gently in the flocculation step. If the mixing is too fast, the flocs will break apart into small particles that are difficult to remove by sedimentation or filtration.

[MEDIA]http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module03/documents/Flocculation.swf[/MEDIA]

Drinking Water Treatment - Sedimentation

Next, the water flows to a tank called a sedimentation basin where gravity causes the flocs to settle to the bottom. Large particles settle more rapidly than small particles. It would take a very long time for ALL of the particles to settle out and that would mean we would need a VERY large sedimentation basin. So the clarified water, with most of the particles removed, moves on to the filtration step where the finer particles are removed.

[MEDIA]http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module03/documents/Sedimentation.swf[/MEDIA]

Drinking Water Treatment - Filtration

The filtration apparatus is a concrete box which contains sand (which does the filtering), gravel (which keeps the sand from getting out) and an underdrain (where the filtered water exits). After the filter is operated for a while, the sand becomes clogged with particles and must be backwashed. Flow through the filter is reversed and the sand and particles are suspended. The particles are lighter than the sand, so they rise up and are flushed from the system. When backwashing is complete, the sand settles down onto the gravel, flow is reversed and the process begins again.

[MEDIA]http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module03/documents/Filtration.swf[/MEDIA]

Drinking Water Treatment - Disinfection

With particles removed, it only remains to provide disinfection so that no pathogens remain in the water. Protozoan pathogens are large in size and have been removed with other particles. Bacteria and viruses are now destroyed by addition of a disinfectant, chlorine (the same chemical present in bleach). Enough chlorine is added so that some remains to go out in the water distribution system, protecting the public once the water leaves the plant.

[MEDIA]http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module03/documents/Disinfection.swf[/MEDIA]

Drinking Water Treatment - Softening

In areas where water comes into contact with limestone, there may be high levels of calcium and magnesium present. These chemicals make the water "hard", producing scale and soap scum. Hardness is removed by a process called softening. Two chemicals (lime, CaO and soda ash, Na2CO3 ) are added to the water, causing the calcium and magnesium to form a precipitate. This solid substance is then removed with the other particles by sedimentation and filtration.
 
你的逻辑更有问题。超市里的鱼是在他们的鱼缸里长那么大的么?



这个是从你的逻辑翻出来的,你也就剩了胡搅

超市的鱼长大的环境难道还比超市的鱼缸干净?
 
这个是从你的逻辑翻出来的,你也就剩了胡搅

超市的鱼长大的环境难道还比超市的鱼缸干净?

未必不比超市的鱼缸干净。
 
The City of Ottawa operates two treatment plants to supply drinking water – Lemieux Island Water Purification Plant (capacity: 400 ML/d; constructed 1931) and Britannia Water Purification Plant (capacity: 360 ML/d; constructed 1961). The source water for both plants is the Ottawa River. Both plants use identical water treatment processes and have undergone significant expansion and modernization over the years.

Raw water enters the treatment plants through large intake pipes that extend into the main flow of the river. The treatment process makes use of the “multiple barrier” principle. A series of treatment steps successively remove undesirable substances such as colour, suspended particles, algae, bacteria, and viruses from the water. The purification process in Ottawa consists of the following steps:

  •  coagulation (alum and sulphuric acid)
  •  flocculation (activated silica as a coagulant aid)
  •  sedimentation
  •  filtration (sand/anthracite)
  •  primary disinfection (sodium hypochlorite)
  •  pH correction (sodium hydroxide)
  •  secondary disinfection (chloramine)
  •  fluoridation (HFS)
During the final treatment step, fluoride is added for prevention of dental cavities, and chloramine (mixture of chlorine and ammonia) is added to preserve water quality as it travels through the vast water distribution system. The pH level is adjusted in order to minimize corrosion effects in the distribution system.



http://ottawa.ca/sites/ottawa.ca/files/2012_annual_report_britannia.pdf



Drinking Water - Regulations



Environmental Protection Agency sets Maximum Contaminant Levels (MCLs) for inorganic chemicals such as arsenic, cadmium and mercury and synthetic organic chemicals such as benzene (an industrial chemical), PCBs, atrazine (an herbicide). Municipal drinking water supplies cannot contain any microorganisms which may originate in fecal matter (e.g. Escherichia coli , a species of bacteria found in the guts of humans and other warm blooded animals) because fecal contamination may carry pathogens and spread disease. Recent concerns relating to drinking water include the presence of protozoan pathogens (e.g. Giardia) and the creation of cancer-causing chemicals (trihalomethanes, THMs) when drinking water is chlorinated.



Drinking Water Treatment



At its simplest level, drinking water treatment seeks to remove turbidity (solids) and pathogens. Additional treatment may be applied to deal with specific problems, e.g. hardness and chemical contamination. The description of drinking water treatment which follows addresses the turbidity and pathogen issues and includes five steps: coagulation, flocculation, sedimentation, filtration and disinfection. Each of these terms will be defined and described in the following pages.

DrinkingWaterTreatment_001.gif




Drinking Water Treatment - Coagulation



Solids are removed by sedimentation (settling) followed by filtration. Small particles are not removed efficiently by sedimentation because they settle too slowly; they may also pass through filters. They would be easier to remove if they clumped together (coagulated) to form larger particles, but they don't because they have a negative charge and repel each other (like two north poles of a magnet).



In coagulation, we add a chemical such as alum which produces positive charges to neutralize the negative charges on the particles. Then the particles can stick together, forming larger particles which are more easily removed.



The coagulation process involves the addition of the chemical (e.g. alum) and then a rapid mixing to dissolve the chemical and distribute it evenly throughout the water.



http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module03/documents/Coagulation.swf



Drinking Water Treatment - Flocculation



Now that the particles have a neutral charge and can stick together. The water flows into a tank with paddles that provide slow mixing and bring the small particles together to form larger particles called flocs. Mixing is done quite slowly and gently in the flocculation step. If the mixing is too fast, the flocs will break apart into small particles that are difficult to remove by sedimentation or filtration.



http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module03/documents/Flocculation.swf



Drinking Water Treatment - Sedimentation



Next, the water flows to a tank called a sedimentation basin where gravity causes the flocs to settle to the bottom. Large particles settle more rapidly than small particles. It would take a very long time for ALL of the particles to settle out and that would mean we would need a VERY large sedimentation basin. So the clarified water, with most of the particles removed, moves on to the filtration step where the finer particles are removed.



http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module03/documents/Sedimentation.swf



Drinking Water Treatment - Filtration



The filtration apparatus is a concrete box which contains sand (which does the filtering), gravel (which keeps the sand from getting out) and an underdrain (where the filtered water exits). After the filter is operated for a while, the sand becomes clogged with particles and must be backwashed. Flow through the filter is reversed and the sand and particles are suspended. The particles are lighter than the sand, so they rise up and are flushed from the system. When backwashing is complete, the sand settles down onto the gravel, flow is reversed and the process begins again.



http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module03/documents/Filtration.swf



Drinking Water Treatment - Disinfection



With particles removed, it only remains to provide disinfection so that no pathogens remain in the water. Protozoan pathogens are large in size and have been removed with other particles. Bacteria and viruses are now destroyed by addition of a disinfectant, chlorine (the same chemical present in bleach). Enough chlorine is added so that some remains to go out in the water distribution system, protecting the public once the water leaves the plant.



http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module03/documents/Disinfection.swf



Drinking Water Treatment - Softening



In areas where water comes into contact with limestone, there may be high levels of calcium and magnesium present. These chemicals make the water "hard", producing scale and soap scum. Hardness is removed by a process called softening. Two chemicals (lime, CaO and soda ash, Na2CO3 ) are added to the water, causing the calcium and magnesium to form a precipitate. This solid substance is then removed with the other particles by sedimentation and filtration.



自来水主要就是做了去悬浮物和杀菌

但是去悬浮物和杀菌对于吃鱼的作用好像不是很大,除非是打算吃生鱼,我觉得吃鱼的最大的担心是重金属和有害化学物质,但是这个问题在自来水饮用上同样存在,所以与其担心鱼能不能吃,不如担心水能不能喝。话说鱼能吃多少,还有超市鱼可以选择,但是水就逃不掉了。
 
哎,这么着说,连这里也木法活了。

搬家去南方吧,最最南,美加边界。还有没有污染?完了,靠近传统工业区五大户,看来地球上最干净的地方是北极和南极了。
 
自来水主要就是做了去悬浮物和杀菌


但是去悬浮物和杀菌对于吃鱼的作用好像不是很大,除非是打算吃生鱼,我觉得吃鱼的最大的担心是重金属和有害化学物质,但是这个问题在自来水饮用上同样存在,所以与其担心鱼能不能吃,不如担心水能不能喝。话说鱼能吃多少,还有超市鱼可以选择,但是水就逃不掉了。

自来水不仅是只去悬浮物和杀菌。

渥太华自来水取自河水,但不是取自河底。 我读过几篇渥太华河床污染的研究报告。渥太华河床的污染,是上游造纸厂排出的汞等重金属与废木削末(也是排的污)结合而成的,河水不容易冲走净化。 象sucker,catfish等鱼喜欢在河底寻食, 重金属污染的可能比较大。

渥太华河的鱼污染是受到监控的,一般来说,按照“吃鱼手册”中给出的量吃问题不大。但是,最好还是选择一下钓鱼的水域比较好。渥太华河水真的不干净。

超市的鱼也不是没有问题。有的华人超市卖进口的严重污染的越南湄公河里长大的鱼。所以,也要有选择的买,选信誉好的店。
 
谢谢楼主的知识普及。那这个地区的核实验室现在是关闭了还是一直在运行? 我看了google地图,这个地区离ottawa是在是太太太的近了。那个下雨啥的,都能把核污水冲到ottawa river里,那在ottawa市里的桥上看到的波涛汹涌的河水,真的是有核污染的水?真的很震惊也~~~~~~~~~


听说过前苏联切尔诺贝利核事故吧?
听说过日本福岛核电站核泄漏吧?
如果你听说过,那么,你就容易理解渥太华的有毒核污染问题了。

不要只看到渥太华蓝天白云的表面现象---50多年前,渥太华河上游距离渥太华1百多公里的核基地(冷战时期核竞赛),曾经发生过类似切尔诺贝利和日本福岛核电站那样的核反应堆熔芯,爆炸和核泄露严重事故!

这次核事故的后果是非常严重的! 对大气的污染,地表和地下水污染等; 尤其糟糕的是,因为是人类第一次遇到反应堆熔芯爆炸和泄漏,当时人们对核废料污染的认识不足,也没有处理经验。装高浓度放射性物质的容器埋在地下50多年后出现腐蚀。。。核污染清理监控要到2400年!!!
 
谢谢楼主的知识普及。那这个地区的核实验室现在是关闭了还是一直在运行? 我看了google地图,这个地区离ottawa是在是太太太的近了。那个下雨啥的,都能把核污水冲到ottawa river里,那在ottawa市里的桥上看到的波涛汹涌的河水,真的是有核污染的水?真的很震惊也~~~~~~~~~
OTTAWA癌症率50%以上
 
谢谢楼主的知识普及。那这个地区的核实验室现在是关闭了还是一直在运行? 我看了google地图,这个地区离ottawa是在是太太太的近了。那个下雨啥的,都能把核污水冲到ottawa river里,那在ottawa市里的桥上看到的波涛汹涌的河水,真的是有核污染的水?真的很震惊也~~~~~~~~~

一直在运行。全世界所有医院放射科使用的放射同位素,几乎都是这里生产的。http://www.ottawacitizen.com/health...shipments+Chalk+River+near/8446302/story.html

渥太华属于核污染高危区,所以,大概10年前,建立了核污染实时监控系统,安装了探测器,24小时不间断遥测数据。下图是放射物探测器的安装位置分布图。圆圈内有!号的是在核设施区域和沿CHALK RIVER和Ottawa River的探测器,圆圈内有实心三角符号的,在渥太华市区。

让人担心的,主要是CHALK LAKE核设施经费不足,还有就是核废料储箱年代太久老化,已经有锈蚀,且处于地震带上。

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